Mark and Ana continue their conversation with the iconic Vanessa Williams. They talk all things Wilhelmina, from her hard exterior to her soft moments, the birth of her dynamic duo with Marc St. James, and bringing the theater to the television.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

Mark and Ana continue their conversation with the iconic Vanessa Williams. They talk all things Wilhelmina, from her hard exterior to her soft moments, the birth of her dynamic duo with Marc St. James, and bringing the theater to the television. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark and Ana continue their conversation with the iconic Vanessa Williams. They talk all things Wilhelmina, from her hard exterior to her soft moments, the birth of her dynamic duo with Marc St. James, and bringing the theater to the television.See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener" rel="noopener noreferrer">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

Vanessa Williams PT2

Ugly&nbsp;Betty&nbsp;was more than just a show - it was a revolution. Bold, heartfelt, and unapologetically real, it gave us characters that shattered stereotypes and told stories that mattered, putting a working-class Latino family, the immigrant experience, and LGBTQ+ stories front and center.&nbsp;
Now, Ana Ortiz and Mark Indelicato&mdash;aka Hilda and Justin&mdash;are sitting down to rewatch the show that changed their lives and ours. With fresh eyes and zero filter, they&rsquo;re revisiting every messy moment, iconic outfit, and groundbreaking storyline, one episode at a time.
This isn&rsquo;t just a nostalgia trip. It&rsquo;s a love letter to the show that made being different feel like a superpower.&nbsp;Pull up a chair, there&rsquo;s room at the table for you!

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Ugly Betty was more than just a show - it was a revolution. Bold, heartfelt, and unapologetically real, it gave us characters that shattered stereotypes and told stories that mattered, putting a working-class Latino family, the immigrant experience, and LGBTQ+ stories front and center.  Now, Ana Ortiz and Mark Indelicato—aka Hilda and Justin—are sitting down to rewatch the show that changed their lives and ours. With fresh eyes and zero filter, they’re revisiting every messy moment, iconic outfit, and groundbreaking storyline, one episode at a time. This isn’t just a nostalgia trip. It’s a love letter to the show that made being different feel like a superpower. Pull up a chair, there’s room at the table for you!

Ugly&nbsp;Betty&nbsp;was more than just a show - it was a revolution. Bold, heartfelt, and unapologetically real, it gave us characters that shattered stereotypes and told stories that mattered, putting a working-class Latino family, the immigrant experience, and LGBTQ+ stories front and center.&nbsp;
Now, Ana Ortiz and Mark Indelicato—aka Hilda and Justin—are sitting down to rewatch the show that changed their lives and ours. With fresh eyes and zero filter, they’re revisiting every messy moment, iconic outfit, and groundbreaking storyline, one episode at a time.
This isn’t just a nostalgia trip. It’s a love letter to the show that made being different feel like a superpower.&nbsp;Pull up a chair, there’s room at the table for you!

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