TechMagic with Cathy Hackl

Vibe Coding, AI Journalism, XR Warfare, AI App Building, and Apple Gaming with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler


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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest breakthroughs in AI and their ripple effects across industries. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. They discuss how AI democratizes app creation, they examine Business Insider’s bold move toward a 70% AI-driven newsroom, Apple’s strategic push into gaming, and XR military collaborations from Meta and Microsoft. From wearable AI to the future of digital work, Cathy and Lee offer a sharp, balanced look at how AI is reshaping our world.

Come for the tech, stay for the magic!


Cathy Hackl Bio

Cathy Hackl is a globally recognized tech & gaming executive, futurist, and speaker focused on spatial computing, virtual worlds, augmented reality, AI, strategic foresight, and gaming platforms strategy. She’s one of the top tech voices on LinkedIn and is the CEO of Spatial Dynamics, a spatial computing and AI solutions company, including gaming. 

Cathy has worked at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Magic Leap, and HTC VIVE and has advised companies like Nike, Ralph Lauren, Walmart, Louis Vuitton, and Clinique on their emerging tech and gaming journeys. She has spoken at Harvard Business School, MIT, SXSW, Comic-Con, WEF Annual Meeting in Davos 2023, CES, MWC, Vogue’s Forces of Fashion, and more. 


Cathy Hackl on LinkedIn

Spatial Dynamics on LinkedIn


Lee Kebler Bio

Lee has been at the forefront of blending technology and entertainment since 2003, creating advanced studios for icons like Will.i.am and producing music for Britney Spears and Big & Rich. Pioneering in VR since 2016, he has managed enterprise data at Nike, led VR broadcasting for Intel at the Japan 2020 Olympics, and driven large-scale marketing campaigns for Walmart, Levi’s, and Nasdaq. A TEDx speaker on enterprise VR, Lee is currently authoring a book on generative AI and delving into splinternet theory and data privacy as new tech laws unfold across the US.


Lee Kebler on LinkedIn


Key Discussion Topics:


  • 00:00 Intro: Welcome to Tech Magic with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler
  • 03:45 The Rise of Vibe Coding: Non-Developers Creating Sophisticated Apps
  • 15:30 Business Insider's AI Adoption and the Future of Journalism
  • 25:45 The Hidden Cost of Replacing Entry-Level Jobs with AI
  • 35:20 Social Media's Evolution in the Age of AI Content
  • 45:15 Apple's Gaming Strategy: Studio Acquisition and Platform Development
  • 55:30 XR Military Contracts: Meta, Microsoft, and Palmer Luckey's Partnership
  • 01:05:00 Next Week at AWE: Live Broadcasting and Upcoming Conversations


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