Chris and Andy talk about the two-episode premiere of ‘Pluribus,’ Vince Gilligan’s new sci-fi drama on Apple TV, and how despite its unique concept, it still contains the hallmark style that the ‘Breaking Bad’ creator is known for (1:02). Later, Chris is joined by Gilligan to discuss what inspired the series, going back to Albuquerque, Rhea Seehorn’s unparalleled talent, why he wanted to write a hero protagonist, and much more (26:04).

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Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald

Guest: Vince Gilligan

Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady

Video Producer: Jon Jones

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