PLEASE VOTE for Kamala Harris! The stakes could not be higher. Once you've done that, then you can listen to this lovely episode, the second part of my chat with Dutch bicons Vera & Leroy Duivenvoorden-Westenberg. We talked a bit more about the queer scene in the Netherlands before moving on to a longer discussion about non-monogamy, polyamory, kink, play parties, and why their sexualities bring them joy. Enjoy!

Follow Vera on IG: https://www.instagram.com/verawestenberg/

Follow Leroy on IG: https://www.instagram.com/leroyduivenvoorden/

Marketing Schmarketing: https://www.marketingschmarketing.nl/

“One Thing Does Not Exclude the Other” (Vera & Leroy’s podcast) on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/het-een-sluit-het-ander-niet-uit/id1615666895

Leroy’s photos from the Bi+ Netherlands Pride Boat: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cg_cgA1o1Wh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Vera’s photos from the Bi+ Netherlands Pride Boat: https://www.instagram.com/p/ChACzpmICKF/?img_index=6