Warden's Watch

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May 13, 2021060 For the Fallen - Justin Hurst, Texas EOW: March 17, 2007
Justin Hurst was a game warden who worked for the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department. A graduate of Texas A&M, he had a passion for the outdoors and worked to protect it. Even before he was a warden, he worked as a waterfowl guide and educated people on hunting. After 5 years of service as a warden, he was involved in an incident where a man was suspected of hunting illegally. While backing up another game warden on a pursuit, the suspect’s vehicle was spiked. As he got out, the suspect fired at the approaching wardens and deputies. Hurst was struck multiple times while returning fire, and was med-flighted to a nearby hospital. A day later, on his 34th birthday, Justin succumbed to his injuries. Justin is an example of an exemplary game warden with a strong work ethic and a desire to educate his community.

His sacrifice will not be forgotten.

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Here's What We Discuss:
Chaplin Scott Mcintosh leads in prayer
Start of Justin’s love of wildlife
Dad, we need to help these hawks
Love of duck and geese
Read the bands on geese
Went to Texas A&M, never went to a football game
Applied for the academy
First of his class
Back home with people he knew
Make personal contacts with farmers and ranchers
A knocking at the door, a flashlight
Justin did not survive
His eyes were used as an organ donation
25 game wardens at the house to support us
Kept the media away
10 units involved in the incident
Dashcam video recorded
The pursuit
Gets cornered at the cemetery and starts firing
Hits Justin; med-flighted to the hospital
I asked God “why did you take my son?”
Effects of a LEO death on the family
Weeks after, wardens were around 24/7
500 law enforcement at Justin’s funeral
Cremated and released into the bay
Ashes put in Justin’s projects
Offered life without parole; refused
Jury convicted him guilty of 1st degree murder with execution
All appeals denied
We pick the day he’s executed
A long process; very educational
Only could bring a driver’s license the penitentiary
He never said anything
Motorcycle groups revved engines during final statement
Parent groups for parents who lost LEO sons and daughters
Support of organizations
I want to make sure our wardens are supported
Justin wanted to educate and teach

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1 hr 8 min
May 10, 2021059 For The Fallen - Arnold Magoon
Arnold Magoon was a game warden with the Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department for 18 years. He worked his way up from a field warden to a supervisor, and was known to be fair but firm in how he enforced laws. As a warden, Arnold was well liked within the community he patrolled and was a role model for those around him. In 1978, a call about a late night shot came in while he was at home. He responded, and a suspected deer poacher assaulted him with his own flashlight, bludgeoning him to death. Arnold is the only warden that has died in the line of duty with the Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department.

His sacrifice will not be forgotten.

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Here's What We Discuss:
For the fallen/police week
Wayne’s formal Colonel as a guest
Dangers of being a law enforcement officer
Roll of honor - 51 names
Won’t give this up until I die
Most challenging group I work with
It has to be done right
It was a normal day and he never came back
Take the time to tell people what they mean to you
Moment of silence
Poem
Jeff Whipple
Arnold Magoon is the only warden who has died in Vermont
Moving on from tragedy and remember
Warden to supervisor
Ready to fry by the fourth of July
Heard a gunshot and went out
Goes to confront the poachers
Put an identification on the vehicle
Throwing out evidence
Approaching the vehicle: 2 men and 1 women
Son’s friend and knows him personally
Disappointment and frustration
Lunged for the flashlight
Left to die
Not uncommon to not wear a gun belt
Could happen to anyone
Monument created

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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54 min
May 07, 2021 TGL016 Andriana Fragola
Andriana Fragola, originally from Miami and has been obsessed with the ocean since childhood. Before working at One Ocean Diving, Andriana worked with the Shark Research and Conservation lab at the University of Miami where she completed her graduate degree. Her focus of study was shark immunology, where Andriana examined the bacteria that colonizes on the skin of blacktip and bull sharks. She says that she's always learning and experiencing new things when you work with sharks! Andriana is also a PADI Divemaster, Freediver, safety diver, was scuba certified at the age of 12 and has a AAUS scientific diver certification.

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1 hr 14 min
April 22, 2021058 The Case of Kate Matrosova Part V - The Conclusion
Kate Matrosova was a highly experienced hiker from Southern Siberia, Russia. She came to America on a student visa and successfully graduated with a masters degree in Financial Engineering. Though she worked for many firms on Wall Street, she also had a passion for the outdoors. She had a passion for climbing big mountains such as Kilimanjaro and McKinley, and was an active marathon runner. At 32 years old, she hiked the Presidential Mountain Range of the White Mountains in New Hampshire carrying light gear for a day hike. Unfortunately, she never made it out alive. The weather conditions reached -85F and 141 MPH winds. Rescue teams attempted to reach her after she activated her communications device, but to no avail. Kate Matrosova was discovered a day later.

Ty Gagne is the CEO of Primex, a public entity risk pool based in New Hampshire, and is also a certified wilderness first responder. He wrote the book Where You’ll Find Me about Kate’s experiences and those who were a part of her recovery. In this podcast, he interviewed Wayne and asked him about his experiences as a supervisor over the search and rescue mission for Kate.

Brett Fitzgerald is a member of the search and rescue team that located and recovered Kate Matrosova. He is an experienced climber and outdoorsman who takes clients up the White Mountains.
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Here's What We Discuss:
Ty Gagne’s new book
High quality volunteers in NH
Embrace being a hero
Continuation of Wayne’s interview
Hasty team was important; other teams covered beacons
Covered lots of ground
Brett Fitzgerald interview
Out skiing during the day before the rescue
Telling clients “there is a 0% chance of reaching the summit today”
Had the kits ready to go
We weren’t sure if we could find her; she could be anywhere
Wind picked us off the ground
Kate was frozen solid
Can’t think of her as a human; need to get the load down
Felt like you were drowning
Continuation of Wayne’s interview
Hard to communicate above treeline
Work to do after recovery
Inform next of kin
Accomplishments of Kate: calls from reporters from New York
Many rescues can be prevented
Preparation: more research, investigation, and paying attention to the weather
There's a reasons trees don’t grow up there
I got it in my calendar, I’m going to hike
Flexibility and knowledge is key
The finding of Kate’s mountaineering axe
Dedication to all search and rescue volunteers

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1 hr 10 min
April 15, 2021 TGL015 Cody Stamann - Part II
Cody Stamann is a mixed martial artist and UFC champion in the featherweight division. Stamann has been a professional fighter since 2010. He has a love for fighting and the outdoors. Cody is also a staunch 2nd amendment advocate, a passionate conservationist, and dives head first into the shooting sports when he's not training for the cage. This is Part Two of our conversation with Cody.
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56 min
April 08, 2021 057 The Case of Kate Matrosova Part IV Featuring Guest Interviewer Ty Gagne
Kate Matrosova was a highly experienced hiker from Southern Siberia, Russia. She came to
America on a student visa and successfully graduated with a masters degree in Financial
Engineering. Though she worked for many firms on Wall Street, she also had a passion for the
outdoors. She had a passion for climbing big mountains such as Kilimanjaro and McKinley, and
was an active marathon runner. At 32 years old, she hiked the Presidential Mountain Range of
the White Mountains in New Hampshire carrying light gear for a day hike. Unfortunately, she
never made it out alive. The weather conditions reached -85F and 141 MPH winds. Rescue
teams attempted to reach her after she activated her communications device, but to no avail.
Kate Matrosova was discovered a day later.

Ty Gagne is the CEO of Primex, a public entity risk pool based in New Hampshire, and is also a
certified wilderness first responder. He wrote the book Where You’ll Find Me about Kate’s
experiences and those who were a part of her recovery. In this podcast, he interviewed Wayne
and asked him about his experiences as a supervisor over the search and rescue mission for
Kate.
Lieutenant Mark Ober is the Lieutenant for District 1 with the New Hampshire Fish and Game.
He frequently responds to hikers in distress and develops search and rescue missions to find
them. He is also a member of the New Hampshire Fish and Game Dive Team. In this episode,
he discusses the mission to find Kate, the difficulties surrounding it, and his role as a supervisor.

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Here's What We Discuss:
- Guest interviewer: Ty Gagne
- The best learning is from the ground up
- The game warden is in charge of the search and rescue
- Pass on shortcuts
- Own up to your decisions
- Wind is a huge factor
- Dragging my feet based on my instincts
- Don’t call me at night - I don’t sleep
- Continuation of interview with Mark Ober
- Constantly on the phone
- Ordered a command post
- 5am to 8am is peak prepare time
- Many acronyms in search and rescues
- Would have never reached Kate safely
- Intent is key
- Everything was in her pack, not blown away
- Sunny day, whiteout on the mountain peaks
- There's more people like Kate
- I made mistakes that other people made
- Continuation of Wayne’s interview
- No intention of going home
- Command posts were rocking from the wind
- Great relationships with local departments
- It's easy to look at a map and make assignments
- Even highly skilled people can get in trouble

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day

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1 hr 2 min
April 01, 2021 TGL014 Cody Stamann - Part I
Cody Stamann is a mixed martial artist and UFC champion in the featherweight division. Stamann has been a professional fighter since 2010. He has a love for fighting and the outdoors. Cody is also a staunch 2nd amendment advocate, a passionate conservationist, and dives head first into the shooting sports when he's not training for the cage.
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53 min
March 25, 2021056 The Case of Kate Matrosova Part III Featuring Mark Ober, Bob Mancini, and Matt Holmes
At 32 years old, Kate Matrosova hiked the Presidential Mountain Range of the White Mountains in New Hampshire carrying light gear for a day hike. Unfortunately, she never made it out alive. Rescue teams attempted to reach her after she activated her communications device, but to no avail. Kate Matrosova was discovered a day later.
Lieutenant Mark Ober is the Lieutenant for District 1 with the New Hampshire Fish and Game. He frequently responds to hikers in distress and develops search and rescue missions to find them. He is also a member of the New Hampshire Fish and Game Dive Team. In this episode, he discusses the mission to find Kate, the difficulties surrounding it, and his role as a supervisor.
Bob Mancini is an award-winning Conservation Officer in New Hampshire. He has been a member of the advanced search & rescue team, dive team, honor guard team and K-9 team. He was also a regular on Northwoods Law. He speaks of his role in the rescue for Kate.
Matt Holmes is a New Hampshire Fish and Game Conservation Officer. He was also a regular on Northwoods Law, and is part of rescue operations. In this episode, he discusses the attempted resume of Kate Matrosova with the rest of the rescue team.
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Here's What We Discuss:
The return of John Nores
Q and A on April 26th via Patreon!
Start of Lt. Mark Ober interview
Matt and Bob: goal to get to coordinates
Half mile off trail to get to coordinates, meet with MRS team
Too cold to function
Matt and Bob stay for backup, MRS team moves in
When she wasn’t found at coordinates, everyone moves back down
Start of Bob Mancini interview
Decided to patrol on snowmobile
Raced back to get essential gear
Disbelief of how someone could be out
My “Oh Shit!” bag
Forgot to change my socks
We were prepared to do what was required
Utilized snowmobiles and then hiked
Fight the inner demons to try and save a life
Propane in stove froze
Hot water would have been like hitting the lottery
Should have slowed down and been a better teammate
Matt’s headlamp
Wayne’s rule: don’t call me the night before
Stay on scene on the trail, MRS goes to beacon
Loud and steady wind
Even if we knew where she was, it might have been a critical incident
Kate was an accomplished hiker
Gear has became better
Start of Matt Holmes interview
Predicted to be bad weather for a while
On snowmobile patrolling all day
Coldest and most dangerous rescue
Eyes are on the mountains
Wind blowing over the summits
Glad to be in my cruiser
At first I was angry: salt in an open wound
Carrying gear for overnight stays
Sun goes down, temperature goes down
Glen’s issues: it wasn’t his night
Matt was the leader of the operation
We had to function as a team to do things we usually did alone
One team to bushwack to point, another on the trail
Barely got stoves lit, water couldn’t boil
All layers were on
If something went wrong, will have to build a shelter
Nobody wanted to stop
MRS team stayed, the rest moved out
I feel good about what we did
Plenty of reasons to not send anyone that night
Feelings softened toward Kate over time
Perfect storm of cold and wind

Credits
Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores
Producer: Jay Ammann
Social Media/Marketing: Morgan Day
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1 hr 18 min
March 18, 2021 TGL013 Cindy Stites
Cindy Stites is the Director of Education for the Hunt to Eat project, a hunting apparel and education company built on community, real food, and conservation. She is a hunter, angler, and budding conservationist. She cares deeply for the animals she pursues and works hard to ensure that the generations to come will have the same opportunities that Cindy has now.
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1 hr 16 min
March 11, 2021 055 The Case of Kate Matrosova Part II featuring Lt. Mark Ober and CO Glen Lucas
Lieutenant Mark Ober is the Lieutenant for District 1 with the New Hampshire Fish and Game. He frequently responds to hikers in distress and develops search and rescue missions to find them. He is also a member of the New Hampshire Fish and Game Dive Team. In this episode, he discusses the mission to find Kate, the difficulties surrounding it, and his role as a supervisor.

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52 min

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This podcast brings you stories from Game Wardens across the world. Listen to their favorite cases, worst cases, what led them to their career, and what makes their job unique. Hosted by retired game…