Warden's Watch

Warden's Watch

By Wayne Saunders / John Nores

This podcast brings you stories from Game Wardens across the world. Listen to their favorite cases, worst cases, what led them to their career, and what makes their job unique. Hosted by retired game ... more

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  1. Number 1: 177 The Creek Kings Case – With Mark Williams

    177 The Creek Kings Case – With Mark Williams What happens when modern poaching meets social media fame? Ohio Wildlife Officer Mark Williams shares the story of the Creek Kings case, an investigation that exposed years of illegal deer hunting hidden behind a successful YouTube channel. What began with a park visitor finding hunting equipment in a metro park quickly grew into a massive digital investigation involving trail cameras, cell phone data, deleted evidence, fake hunting locations, sponsorship money, and some very ambitious trophy hunters. Mark takes us through the case from the first clue to the final sentencing and explains how technology helped both the offenders and the officers who caught them. Our Sponsors: Thin Green Line Podcast Don Noyes Chevrolet North American Game Warden Museum Hunt Regs WiseEye SecureIt Gun Storage XS Sights “A Cowboy in the Woods” Book Iron Skillet Seasonings Maine Operation Game Thief New Hampshire Operation Game Thief Conservation Officers of Pennsylvania North East Conservation Law Enforcement Chiefs Association International Wildlife Crimestoppers North American Wildlife Enforcement Officers Association Here’s what we discuss:  Meet Ohio Wildlife Officer Mark Williams  Why Mark calls this a "21st century poaching case"  The rise of wildlife commercialization through social media  The Creek Kings Outdoors YouTube channel  Hunting for views, sponsorships, and online fame  A park visitor discovers hunting equipment in Three Creeks Metro Park  Metro Park Ranger Stefan Brook gets involved  Building partnerships before a major case pays off  Trail cameras, tree stands, and ATV trails in the park  Investigators identify two cousins as suspects  Zach Bethel and Justin Booth become the focus  How cellular trail cameras changed the investigation  "It would have been impossible for them to do what they did without technology, and impossible for us to stop them without ours."  Rangers document repeated hunting activity  Officers begin monitoring the YouTube channel  Hunting equipment, filming gear, and surveillance cameras  The challenge of predicting suspect movements  Rangers catch the suspects entering the park  Excuses about lost dogs and accidental hunting  Contradictions begin piling up  Hidden cameras and deleted messages  Evidence tampering enters the picture  "The only lesson they learned was not to hunt it with equipment they couldn't carry out."  Search warrants for phones and digital devices  Suspects underestimate the investigation  Recovering deleted information  Discovering years of illegal activity  Investigators realize the case is much bigger than expected  Illegal deer linked to YouTube content  Prodigy, Turkeyfoot, Wide 10, and other named bucks  Hunting places they had no permission to hunt  Recovering deer across multiple properties  The fake Kentucky hunts  Deer allegedly harvested in Kentucky were actually killed in Ohio  Manipulating videos to create a false story  Property owners misled by the suspects  Sponsors unknowingly backing illegal hunting content  "These guys made tens of thousands in material and monetary wealth from illegally killing wildlife."  Investigators spend months analyzing phones, computers, drones, and photos  Five years of documented activity uncovered  The Metro Park becomes their "cheat code"  Conversations about avoiding detection  Planning future fake Kentucky hunts  Using drones to locate deer  Hunting-related drone violations  Evidence from podcasts, texts, videos, and photos  How social media became a treasure trove of evidence  The decision to focus on the strongest charges  Cooperation between wildlife officers, park rangers, prosecutors, and tech specialists  76 total charges filed  Plea agreements and guilty pleas  Over $29,000 in wildlife restitution  More than $37,000 in total financial penalties  Nine days of jail time  Five-year revocation of hunting, fishing, and trapping privileges  Wildlife Violator Compact consequences across North America  Ban from Metro Parks and Alum Creek State Park  Restrictions on possessing hunting equipment  "They treated it like their own private preserve."  The damage done to sponsors and supporters  Hunters who felt betrayed by the channel  The dangers of chasing fame and online success  Lessons for conservation officers facing digital-era wildlife crimes  Why Mark believes more cases like this are coming  The importance of protecting public resources  Final thoughts on greed, accountability, and conservation Credits Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores Producer: Jay Ammann Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Google Waypoint Stitcher TuneIn Megaphone Find More Here: Website Warden’s Watch / TGL Store Facebook Facebook Fan Page Instagram Threads YouTube RSS Learn more about your ad choices. 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  2. Number 2: W10 Lisa Feener & Kelly Irwin – Pack Life

    W10 Lisa Feener & Kelly Irwin – Pack Life Kelly Irwin and Lisa Feener join the podcast to share their experiences in the world of hound hunting, from raising generations of bear dogs to navigating a traditionally male-dominated sport. This conversation explores memorable hunts, dog breeding, wildlife behavior, mentorship, and the deep bond between houndsmen and their dogs. More than anything, this episode is about the dogs, the people who love them, and the traditions that keep the sport alive. Our Sponsors: Thin Green Line Podcast Don Noyes Chevrolet North American Game Warden Museum Hunt Regs WiseEye SecureIt Gun Storage XS Sights “A Cowboy in the Woods” Book Iron Skillet Seasonings Maine Operation Game Thief New Hampshire Operation Game Thief Conservation Officers of Pennsylvania North East Conservation Law Enforcement Chiefs Association International Wildlife Crimestoppers North American Wildlife Enforcement Officers Association Here’s what we discuss:  Meeting through New Hampshire Bear Hunters Association field trials  Why women are still relatively uncommon in hound hunting  The term houndsmen and why neither guest worries much about labels  Keeping things simple and focusing on the dogs  Kelly's introduction to hunting with hounds after meeting her husband  Falling in love with the sport almost immediately  Building a family bloodline that now stretches six generations  Lisa's first exposure to hound hunting while working on bear research  Using hounds to capture and study radio-collared bears  Discovering that hounds are more than just tools  "Of course they're dogs. They're going to want to play, they're going to want to snuggle, and they just have this really intense job."  Driving hours to learn more about dogs and hound hunting  Mentorship, friendship, and learning the craft together  "I want you to have a real bear dog."  Trial and error while building a successful pack  Learning to manage different dog personalities and abilities  The differences men and women can bring to dog training  Reading dogs through their voices, behavior, and body language  Understanding each dog's strengths and weaknesses  Memorable hunts in steep mountains and rugged terrain  Recovering dogs from cliffs and navigating difficult country  A successful bear hunt that led to an unexpected encounter with hikers  Turning curiosity into a positive educational experience  Common misconceptions about hunting with hounds  "The strongest relationship you can have with an animal is to hunt with it."  Why most houndsmen are motivated by the dogs, not the harvest  "It's not about how many bears you can kill. For most houndsmen, it's about the dogs."  Watching young dogs develop and gain confidence  The excitement of a puppy figuring things out for the first time  "Some of the most memorable hunts are when the puppies learn a thing."  Catch-and-release bear hunting during training season  Understanding bear behavior and seasonal food sources  Following clues from what bears are eating  Studying movement patterns and habitat use  Building bloodlines and preserving desirable traits  The role genetics plays in creating successful hunting dogs  "You have full ownership over the outcome of that dog."  Why local bloodlines often perform best in local conditions  Hunting differences between northern New Hampshire and northern Maine  Water crossings, cold trailing, and challenging terrain  How regional conditions shape dogs over generations  Hunting with children and introducing the next generation  The teamwork required to manage a successful hound hunt  Working together through guide camps and outdoor adventures  Processing bears in the woods rather than rushing back to camp  Slowing down and appreciating the entire experience  "Take time to smell the roses."  Why the journey matters more than the harvest  Looking ahead to another season with the dogs Credits Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores Producer: Jay Ammann Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Google Waypoint Stitcher TuneIn Megaphone Find More Here: Website Warden’s Watch / TGL Store Facebook Facebook Fan Page Instagram Threads YouTube RSS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  3. Number 3: 170 The Ray Anderson Case – Washington State

    What began as a baffling discovery in a Washington State clearcut quickly turned into one of the most significant wildlife cases in the region – mainly because of the sentence that followed. Officers Lanny McOmber and Sergeant Brian Alexander walk us through a long, technical investigation involving multiple poached elk, complex necropsies, geofence warrants, cutting-edge tech and a suspect who just couldn’t stay away. Our Sponsors: Thin Green Line Podcast Don Noyes Chevrolet North American Game Warden Museum Hunt Regs WiseEye SecureIt Gun Storage XS Sights “A Cowboy in the Woods” Book Iron Skillet Seasonings Maine Operation Game Thief New Hampshire Operation Game Thief Conservation Officers of Pennsylvania North East Conservation Law Enforcement Chiefs Association International Wildlife Crimestoppers North American Wildlife Enforcement Officers Association Here’s what we discuss: · Why officers called it the Ray Anderson case · Four elk found dead in a clearcut · “There was no question - this was a poaching incident.” · Necropsies on multiple elk in field conditions · No bullets or brass recovered · A fifth elk tied to the incident · Early frustration with limited evidence · Asking the public for tips · Turning to geofence warrants · A complex, multi‑step warrant process · Waiting months for data returns · Separate trespassing issues on timber land · Cut gates and trail cameras · A familiar vehicle keeps reappearing · The suspect returning near the scene · Contact with a convicted felon · Firearms located in the vehicle · Quietly keeping cases separate · Geofence data starts lining up · An interview that slowly tightens · Initial denials turn into admissions · The claim of “guiding” elk by shooting at them · Washington’s spree‑killing statute explained · Elevating wildlife violations to felonies · How prior case law came full circle · The gut punch of sentencing day · A delayed - but meaningful - outcome · Mentorship and career‑defining cases · “You create your own luck in this job.” Credits Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores Producer: Jay Ammann Warden’s Watch logo & Design: Ashley Hannett Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Google Waypoint Stitcher TuneIn Megaphone Find More Here: Website Warden’s Watch / TGL Store Facebook Facebook Fan Page Instagram Threads YouTube RSS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  4. Number 4: 95 Kevin Behr - Ohio: Shot by a Poacher

    Five days before Christmas 2020, Ohio Department of Natural Resources Officer Kevin Behr was shot from behind while investigating a poaching operation. Nearly two years and 15 surgeries later, he shares his remarkable story of survival, courage, and determination. Our Sponsors: Thin Green Line Podcast Don Noyes Chevrolet Sovereign Sportsman Solutions “A Cowboy in the Woods” Book Hunt of a Lifetime Maine's Operation Game Thief Wildlife Heritage Foundation of NH International Wildlife Crimestoppers Here’s what we discuss: Incident occurred on the final day of deer gun season Information about a chronic poacher operating in the area Poacher had previously served prison time Setting up a decoy in a rural area Shooter was less than fifty feet away Shot from behind with a 20-gauge slug You feel being shot before you hear it Reverted to training: communicate, move, shoot Hit the emergency button on portable radio Legs wouldn’t work Goal was to stay alive until someone arrived Felt like molten steel Shattered pelvis, multiple organs damaged Shock wave travelled through the skull “Bring more combat gauze.” Concerns about potential ambush New goal: stay alive until EMTs arrived In and out of consciousness New goal: stay alive until landing at the hospital Accept the fact that you have been shot Use those few seconds to focus on training - and act Requested the level one trauma centre Milliseconds count Shooter had a thermal scope – what did he see? Offered no aid. Threw gun and ran. Potentially more homicides in this felon’s future Some light moments on a dark day 28 days in ICU Fifteen surgeries to date The long road back Your mindset matters Most internal organs were damaged Nobody gets a free pass from PTSD Learning new limits Making gains all the time Spinning a positive from a negative Training, tactics, and experience will get you through Shooter sentenced to a total of nearly 15 years Credits Hosts: Wayne Saunders and John Nores Producer: Jay Ammann Art & Design: Ashley Hannett Research / Content Coordinator: Stacey DesRoches Subscribe: Apple Podcasts Spotify Amazon Google Waypoint Stitcher TuneIn Megaphone Find More Here: Website Warden’s Watch / TGL Store Facebook Facebook Fan Page Instagram Twitter YouTube RSS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  5. Number 5: 044 John Nores and the California Bear Poaching Case

    From the Nancy Foley podcast stemmed a conversation with John about a bear poaching case that needed exploration. John and Wayne discuss a case in California that started as a small time investigation of bear poaching that lead to convictions on numerous game and firearm violations. The case expanded into a large scale illegal guiding service and John went undercover to crack the case wide open. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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