After Corinna complains about an obnoxious and possibly libelous article in the Washington Post, the Dorx welcome legal scholar, philosopher, vegan, and animal rights activist Dr. Gary Francione. We discuss Equality Claims vs Belief Claims, old-school transsexuals, admitting you’re wrong, Andrea Dworkin, nonviolence, intersectionality, and the principles of a liberal pluralistic society. Can we police fetishes? Who’s Afraid of Kathleen Stock? Why are vegans extra crazy? Does Corinna really not want to be a Good Person? What is “harm”? Despite Corinna disparaging young people going vegan, and Nina swearing a lot about Crohn’s disease, Dr. Francione offers a banquet of (plant-based) food for thought.

Links

Gary Francione’s website: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/

Gary Francione’s essay on the Trans Rights Issue: https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-trans-rights-issue-equality-claims-and-belief-claims/

Julie Bindel: The Unforgivable Transing of Andrea Dworkin https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/the-unforgivable-transing-of-andrea

Why Veganism Matters: The Moral Value of Animals by Gary Francione https://cup.columbia.edu/book/why-veganism-matters/9780231199612

Nina’s Gender Wars playing cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/

How Do I Go Vegan https://www.howdoigovegan.com/

Nina and Corinna will be guests at the Unspeakeasy retreat in Louisville, KY April 9-10! It’s for women only, even though Corinna isn’t one! Sign up and ask what organizer/host Meghan Daum was thinking: https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/2024-unspeakeasy-retreats

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