In this episode, Stephan Livera and Matt Corallo discuss the implications of quantum computing on Bitcoin's security. They explore expert opinions on the timelines for quantum threats, the current stance of Bitcoin developers, and potential solutions for quantum resistance. Matt introduces his proposed plan for integrating quantum-resistant features into Bitcoin wallets, emphasizing the need for gradual adoption and community consensus. The conversation also touches on market dynamics, the role of seed phrases, and the importance of preparing for a future where quantum computing could pose a significant risk to Bitcoin.

Takeaways:

🔸Quantum computers are not an immediate threat to Bitcoin.

🔸Experts suggest a timeline of 10 to 25 years for quantum threats.

🔸Bitcoin developers have historically underestimated quantum risks.

🔸There is ongoing research into quantum-resistant solutions.

🔸Wallet adoption of new technologies is slow and challenging.

🔸The future Bitcoin community will make decisions on quantum security.

🔸Market dynamics will influence the value of quantum-vulnerable coins.

🔸Seed phrases provide a layer of security against quantum threats.

🔸The proposed quantum plan aims for minimal disruption to users.

🔸Preparation for quantum threats should start now, even if the risk is distant.

Timestamps:

(00:00) - Intro

(00:51) - Quantum computer’s breakthrough timelines

(03:38) - Are Bitcoin developers taking the quantum threat seriously?

(07:41) - Evaluating the quantum threat

(10:00) - The Matt Corallo Quantum Plan

(17:48) - Future community decisions on quantum security

(20:12) - Will Bitcoin need a soft fork? 

(23:30) - Market’s response to quantum threat 

(28:15) - The role of seed phrases in quantum security

(33:40) - Post quantum cryptographic schemes

(37:23) - Patoshi miner adapting to Q-Day

(43:25) - Which public cryptography scheme is most vulnerable? 

(50:20) - Closing thoughts 

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• https://saveourwallets.org/ 

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