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Jane Perlez is a veteran foreign correspondent, the former Bejing Bureau Chief for The New York Times, and host of the new podcast “Face-Off.” She’s on Angry Planet today to talk to us about the show and her experiences reporting on China. “Face-Off” is all about America’s complicated relationship with China. Perlez says she started the show because she was tired of the hysterical conversations she hears about Beijing in Washington.

In this episode we learn …

• Why On the Beach is Perlez’s favorite nuclear war movie.

• What it’s like to visit China for the first time at the height of the Cultural Revolution.

• What “Communism” means in a country with a growing bourgeoisie.

• What it takes for someone to lead China.

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