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This episode features Nick Brunacini and Josh Blum.

Does Blue Card only work if there are palm trees in front of the structure? Do we demand 5 Engines and 2 Trucks on the scene for Blue Card to really be effective? Do you get your Blue Card status suspended if you cut a hole in the roof? Is Blue Card pro combination nozzle? Find out the answer to these questions and more as we explore just what is this Blue Card?

At the end of the episode we draw a card from Bruno's Timeless Tactical Truth's and discuss it.

Nick Brunacini is the leader of B Shifter and Blue Card. He joined the Phoenix Fire Department (PFD) in 1980. He served seven years as a firefighter on different engine companies before promoting to captain and working nine years on a ladder company. Nick served as a battalion chief for five years, and in 2001, he was promoted to shift commander. He then spent the next five years developing and teaching the Blue Card curriculum at the PFD’s Command Training Center. His last assignment with the PFD was south shift commander; he retired from the department in 2009. Nick is the author of “B-Shifter—A Firefighter’s Memoir.” He also co-wrote “Command Safety.”

Contact Nick Brunacini at [email protected]

Josh Blum, Blue Card Program Manager and has been in the fire service since 1993. He began his service as a volunteer firefighter before accepting a full-time career position. Josh served as the deputy chief of operations for the Loveland Symmes (Ohio) Fire Department, where he measurably increased the department’s training and operational effectiveness. Josh retired from Loveland Symmes in 2020 and now works for Blue Card as the program manager in all aspects of curriculum development and program delivery. Josh continues to work directly with departments throughout Southern Ohio assisting with training and fire department operations. Josh has developed and managed many fire service training programs throughout his career. He is a graduate of the Ohio Fire Executive Program

Contact Josh Blum at [email protected]

This episode is produced and edited by John Vance at [email protected]

Production Assistant, Katie Brunacini