On this episode, Erik is joined by Jd Ross (@justindross), co-founder of Opendoor. They talk about a wide variety of topics, including mental models, cities, governance, travel, founding myths, and “why all of us are solely responsible for western civilization.”

They start with mental models, talking about some of the most useful mental models Jd has seen and how he identifies new ones (a mental model for mental models, if you will). They transition to talking about cities and governance, including why the Bay Area has a housing crisis, why Jd is very long on Oakland, and the policies that he would import from the UK to fix housing in the Bay Area. Jd observes that cities always endure, even through disasters and massive changes in the nation states surrounding them.

He talks about founding Opendoor, the importance of founding myths, and what he’s learned from Keith Rabois. He explains what you need to scale your company effectively and the difference between entrepreneurs and executives. He talks about some of his mental models for company building and why he says “playbooks rule everything around me.” Jd also talks about taking a sabbatical and traveling around the world twice, but in his words “learning nothing.”

They talk about what Jd is looking for in his next opportunity and how he thinks about what to pick. He says that he’s looking at how to create the most good for the human race over a 1000 year time horizon and explains how Carroll Quigley convinced him that all of us are solely responsible for western civilization. They talk about snark as a contagion in the world today, which Jd says emerges when people don’t feel empowered to make changes, so they fall back on sarcasm.

They have a rapid-fire round where they talk about different people that Jd has learned from, and also play a game of long-short, where Erik names something (fitness cults, the Bay Area, etc.) and Jd says whether he’s long or short on it.

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Venture Stories is brought to you by Village Global and is hosted by co-founder and partner, Erik Torenberg. Colin Campbell is our audio engineer and the show is produced by Brett Bolkowy.