Deb is a Shogun. A professor at the University of Oregon, she doesn't just teach, she doesn't just hold down a job, she gets people careers. She does this with how she teaches but she also takes a much deeper interest in students than any other professor I've met.

In this chat, we talk:

- What learning advertising is really learning

- The role of portfolios

- Which agencies students want to get it into and why

- Finding meaning in strategy work

- What advertising students look like in 2018

- What's up with Oregon?

- And so much more.

You can find the shogun here: https://twitter.com/debkmorrison

Video: http://www.sweathead.co

And me: http://www.twitter.com/markpollard