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How can a three-time world pizza champion still struggle to fill his own shop?

In this episode, Eidref sits down with Ryan Ososky, a three-time world pizza champion and Pizza Maker of the Year, to unpack one of the most interesting contradictions in pizza.

Ryan has the trophies, the technique, and one of the most dialed-in Detroit-style pies in West Hollywood—but the crowds haven’t always matched the accolades. From building award-winning pizza to navigating the brutal economics of running a restaurant in Los Angeles, this conversation gets into what success in the pizza business really looks like.

Highlights:

00:52 – Winning Awards vs Winning in Business

01:02 – Meet Ryan: 3-Time World Champion

01:22 – Why Trophies Don’t Guarantee Customers

01:52 – Building a Detroit-Style Pizza

02:22 – The Reality: Not Busy Enough

02:52 – What It Feels Like to Win but Struggle

03:22 – What Actually Defines a “Real Win”

03:52 – Competition vs Real-World Success

04:22 – Why LA Is a Tough Market

04:52 – High Costs, Labor, and Small Business Pressure

05:22 – Why Restaurants Struggle to Survive

05:52 – Still Showing Up and Staying in the Fight

06:22 – What Makes Detroit-Style Pizza Different

06:52 – Tasting the Product: Does It Deliver?

07:22 – Dough Process & Fermentation Breakdown

07:52 – Chef-Driven Pizza Concept Explained

08:22 – Why Great Pizza Still Might Not Be Enough

08:52 – The Big Question: What’s Missing?

09:22 – Staying in the Game Despite the Odds

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How far would you go to become a world pizza champion?

In this episode, Eidref sits down with Wilhelm Rodriguez, a world pizza champion who spent years chasing one of the toughest titles in the industry.

From competing in pizza acrobatics to grinding through multiple losses in Las Vegas, Wilhelm shares what it really takes to win on the biggest stage. This is a story about obsession, resilience, and why even after reaching the top, the ultimate goal still isn’t finished.

Highlights:

0:53 – The Dream of Becoming a World Pizza Champion

1:13 – Meet Wilhelm Rodriguez

1:43 – From Acrobatics to Pizza Competitions

2:13 – Why Acrobatics Builds Better Pizza Makers

2:43 – Entering the World of Pizza Competitions

3:13 – Why Las Vegas Is the Toughest Stage

3:43 – The Pressure of Competing Twice to Win

4:13 – Years of Losses and Almost Quitting

4:43 – Breaking Through in the International Division

5:13 – Obsessing Over Every Detail to Win

5:43 – Winning Both Rounds in Vegas

6:13 – Representing Puerto Rico on the World Stage

6:43 – Going Viral and National Recognition

7:13 – Hard Work Behind the Success

7:43 – Life After Becoming World Champion

8:03 – The Dream of Becoming a World Pizza Champion (Team)

8:33 – The Meaning of Legacy and Purpose

8:53 – The Emotional Reality of Achieving Your Dream

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How does a Bay Area pizzeria quietly become a $2 million business?

In this episode, Idris sits down with Leah, owner of Pizza Leah, to break down how a small-town pizzeria quietly hit $2 million in annual sales.

From opening 20 locations to walking away for her health, Leah shares how she rebuilt her life—and built a highly efficient pizza operation rooted in systems, consistency, and intentional decisions.

Highlights:

0:52 – From Dine-In Vision to Takeout Reality

1:22 – Meet Leah: From 20 Stores to One Shop

1:52 – How COVID Reshaped the Business

2:22 – Small Shop, Big Numbers

2:52 – The Oven Bottleneck Problem

3:22 – Why Systems & Communication Matter

3:52 – Opening 20 Restaurants & Burning Out

4:32 – Leaving for Health & Starting Over

5:12 – Dough Philosophy: Long, Slow, Cold Fermentation

5:52 – Balancing Flavor: Salt, Fermentation & Ingredients

6:32 – Hybrid Pan Pizza & Production Efficiency

7:12 – Hitting $2 Million in Sales

7:42 – The Stress of Running a Restaurant

8:12 – Customer Loyalty & Small Town Advantage

8:32 – Intentionality Over Everything

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Topic:bay area pizzeria, pizza leah, leah pizza leah, sonoma county pizzeria, windsor california pizza, $2 million pizzeria, successful pizzeria business, pizza shop success story, pizza restaurant systems, pizzeria operations, small town restaurant success, takeout pizza business, covid restaurant pivot, pizza shop efficiency, kitchen workflow systems, restaurant communication systems, pizza dough fermentation, long cold fermentation pizza, new york style pizza dough, hybrid pan pizza, pizza production efficiency, restaurant owner story, pizza business podcast, how to open a pizzeria, scaling a pizza business, independent pizzeria, pizza industry insights

What does it really take to serve 58 pizzas in just 45 minutes… at a wedding where everything has to be perfect?

In this episode, we go behind the scenes with Linda and Abby of Fired Up Fresh, a mother-daughter duo specializing in high-pressure mobile pizza catering. From months of preparation to last-minute improvisation, they show how chaotic wedding events are transformed into a seamless, high-performance operation.

We break down their entire process—from prepping dough days in advance, managing dietary restrictions on the fly, and optimizing workflow with parbaked pizzas, to executing a flawless dinner service under extreme time pressure. This episode reveals the real “secret sauce” behind catering success: preparation, systems, and the ability to adapt when things don’t go as planned.

Highlights:

01:00 – Serving 58 pizzas in 45 minutes: the challenge

01:10 – Why wedding catering is more complex than it looks

01:21 – Introducing Fired Up Fresh and their mobile catering model

01:30 – The 2-month preparation process behind each event

01:43 – Setting up on-site: trailer, tent, and buffet logistics

01:55 – Starting the oven hours before service

02:14 – Managing pizza temperature and quality

02:24 – Calming clients and building trust on wedding day

02:49 – The mental pressure of catering events

03:05 – Handling dietary restrictions and last-minute changes

03:27 – Improvising ingredients on the fly

03:44 – The importance of preparation and sleep

04:06 – Confidence built through experience

04:22 – Simplifying the menu for efficiency

04:34 – Preparing appetizers and charcuterie cups

04:50 – Coordinating service across multiple locations

05:02 – Experiencing the wedding while waiting for service

05:32 – Preparing pasta and additional menu items

06:02 – Finalizing the pizza menu for the event

06:18 – Why parbaking dough saves time during service

06:49 – Streamlining the pizza assembly process

07:10 – “The 7 Ps”: proper planning prevents poor performance

07:31 – The real secret sauce: systems and organization

07:48 – Managing pizza flow and buffet consistency

08:04 – Transitioning from prep to full service

08:20 – Trusting your team during high-pressure moments

08:34 – Finding rhythm during peak service

08:53 – Managing extreme oven temperatures

09:01 – Producing pizzas at high speed during service

09:16 – Optimizing layout for faster workflow

09:32 – Why parbaking is a game-changer

09:46 – Creating custom meals for dietary needs

10:03 – Serving gluten-free and dairy-free guests

10:19 – Matching the wedding aesthetic and theme

10:44 – Designing a seamless guest experience

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What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent entirely?

In this episode of the What's Good Dough Podcast, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle, the team behind Gabacool Pizza, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional restaurant.

From prepping in a commissary kitchen to selling out at brewery pop-ups, they’ve built a business that prioritizes flexibility, creativity, and community.

Throughout the episode, they break down their entire workflow—from prep and transport logistics to branding, menu design, and the realities of running a food business without a permanent location.

If you've ever thought about starting a pizza business but were intimidated by restaurant rent, this episode offers a real blueprint.

Highlights:

02:57 – Arriving at the Petaluma commissary kitchen

03:12 – Why pop-ups still need a legal kitchen space

04:25 – Storage rules and health regulations for food businesses

04:57 – Managing trips between the kitchen and the event location

05:39 – Preparing ingredients for hundreds of pizzas in a shared fridge

06:39 – Organizing dough trays and prep workflow

09:41 – Why their commissary kitchen supports the local community

10:43 – Supporting artists and designing the Gabacool brand

11:19 – How they originally transported their entire pizza operation in small cars

12:00 – Designing a van setup for maximum efficiency

16:00 – Packing equipment and organizing mobile pizza operations

20:00 – Why brewery pop-ups work as a business model

23:57 – Building real relationships with brewery partners

25:10 – Selling out early and the challenges of high demand

30:00 – The realities of running a pizza pop-up every weekend

37:24 – The physical demands of catering and pop-up events

38:53 – Creating a clean and memorable pop-up brand experience

46:05 – Lighting, propane, and the technical side of running a mobile kitchen

50:00 – Dialing in oven temperatures for outdoor pizza service

01:00:00 – The moment a pop-up setup starts feeling like a real restaurant

01:05:49 – Creating weekly specials using local farm ingredients

01:06:20 – Non-food tasks required to run a food business

01:06:30 – Branding, merch design, and social media strategy

01:08:55 – Running a business without a traditional office

01:10:48 – Designing marketing materials from a phone or tablet

01:11:04 – Michelle’s background in events, design, and hospitality

01:15:30 – Learning to run multiple pizza ovens during service

01:16:40 – The trial-and-error process of improving systems and workflow

01:16:47 – Winning a scholarship to Pizza University

01:19:00 – Overcoming imposter syndrome in the pizza industry

01:31:25 – Dough ball size, fermentation, and pizza technique

01:34:00 – Jeremy’s culinary school experience and career path

01:35:42 – Breaking down how their pizza bakes in the oven

01:50:24 – Reflecting on making over 20,000 pizzas and building a community

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What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent altogether?

In this episode, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle of Gabacool, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional pizzeria. From prepping in a $235/month commissary kitchen to selling out every weekend at brewery pop-ups, they’ve created a system that prioritizes flexibility, strong branding, and high-quality ingredients.

We break down how their pop-up model works, why they refuse to pay venues to operate, the importance of creating a memorable brand presence, and how thoughtful dough fermentation and ingredient sourcing elevate their pizza. It’s a blueprint for anyone who wants to start a food business without the risk of a full restaurant lease.

Highlights:

00:00 – Women’s Pizza Month scholarship announcement

00:22 – Why most famous pizzerias are run by men

00:35 – The surprising cost Gabacool completely avoids

00:51 – Introducing Jeremy & Michelle of Gabacool

01:09 – Inside their $235/month commissary kitchen

01:30 – Storing ingredients and prepping for 300–400 pizzas a weekend

01:53 – Why traditional restaurant rent can reach $5k–$10k

02:04 – Packing up for the pop-up service

02:28 – Running a “sell-out model” for pizza nights

02:43 – Arriving at Moonlight Brewing in Santa Rosa

02:53 – The brewery partnership model

03:04 – Why they refuse to pay venues to operate

03:21 – Running a pizza business with almost zero fixed overhead

03:47 – Setting up the pop-up restaurant tent

04:03 – The $6,000 custom tent and branding strategy

04:41 – Why strong visual branding matters for pop-ups

04:53 – How branding helped people remember Gabacool

05:05 – Setting up the kitchen and becoming a restaurant in minutes

05:27 – The origin story of the Gabacool name

05:52 – Running the business beyond cooking: design, website, merch

06:06 – Building the business without a traditional office

06:13 – Winning a Pizza University scholarship

06:41 – How their pop-up kitchen workflow operates

07:05 – Their dough formula: flour blend, hydration, and fermentation

07:50 – Culinary training and lessons from the CIA

08:14 – Evaluating the final pizza bake

08:26 – The constant tweaking required for pop-ups

09:07 – Sponsor segment: managing cheese costs in pizzerias

09:11 – The “Snail of Approval” and what it represents

09:42 – Growing from 10 pizzas a night to 65+

10:03 – Why community is the real reward of running a pizzeria

10:38 – Final takeaway: building a premium brand without a storefront

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What happens when an engineer quits his job, goes all-in on pizza, and builds a slice shop obsessed with consistency?

In this episode of What’s Good Dough, Eidref is with Charlie Anderson, founder of Good Pizza Cleveland, to talk about the real work behind opening a modern slice shop. From menu minimalism and workflow design to dough fermentation, content creation, and long-term vision, this is a deep dive into what it actually takes to make great pizza— consistently.

Highlights:

2:05 – Building a New York-style slice shop in Cleveland
4:15 – Modern pizzeria branding & restaurant interior design strategy
6:00 – Why a 6-item pizza menu improves consistency and profitability
8:30 – Weighing pizza toppings for cost control & operational consistency
10:50 – Commercial pizza oven management: stone temp, bake time & workflow
13:40 – The realities of running a high-volume slice shop
15:30 – Quitting engineering to open a pizzeria full-time
18:10 – From pizza pop-ups to brick-and-mortar restaurant ownership
21:00 – Imposter syndrome as a pizza entrepreneur & content creator
24:10 – Reverse-engineering New York pizza & building a pizza YouTube channel
27:00 – Using Instagram & organic social media to grow a local restaurant
30:00 – Poolish vs straight dough: 73% hydration pizza dough formula
33:20 – Controlling dough temperature for consistent fermentation
36:10 – Two-stage dough balling technique for stronger pizza crust
40:00 – Why long fermentation doesn’t always mean better pizza
43:00 – How to identify over-proofed pizza dough in a restaurant setting
46:20 – Slice shop bottlenecks: staffing, speed & labor efficiency
50:00 – Increasing restaurant revenue through operational efficiency

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Most pizzerias have a huge menu, but this man, Charlie Anderson, only sells six pizzas. And this strategy is helping him in his quest to be the best pizzeria in the world. Highlights:0:00 – Why a Tight Menu Keeps Slices Fresh0:40 – Pros & Cons of Offering Fewer Pizzas1:20 – Meet Charlie Anderson of Good Pizza Cleveland2:00 – From First Pizza to Opening a Pizzeria2:45 – Designing a Modern Slice Shop Experience3:30 – Building a New York–Style Slice Shop in Cleveland4:10 – Why Good Pizza Only Offers Six Pizzas4:50 – Dialing in the Core Menu5:30 – Making the Pepperoni Pie6:00 – Four-Cheese Blend Breakdown6:30 – Shredding Cheese In-House6:50 – Solving the Sauce Consistency Problem7:20 – Sauce Application Without a Ladle7:50 – Perfect Slice Bake & Reheat StrategyFollow them:https://goodpizzacleveland.com/https://www.instagram.com/goodpizzacleveland/?hl=enhttps://www.tiktok.com/@goodpizzacleveland?lang=en https://www.youtube.com/@GoodPizzaClevelandThank you to our show sponsors:Bacio Cheese:https://bit.ly/3FmQ3up Cheesehog- let them know What's Good Dough Sent [email protected] my Instagram Community Channel: https://www.instagram.com/channel/AbbWnReTYIlCfO21/ Patreon Page: [patreon.com/whatsgooddough](http://patreon.com/whatsgooddough)DM [@whatsgooddough](https://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/#)https://www.instagram.com/whatsgooddough/email me: [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])Topic:pizza podcast, what’s good dough podcast, good pizza cleveland, charlie anderson pizza, pizza business podcast, opening a pizzeria, slice shop business, modern pizzeria design, pizza dough fermentation, poolish pizza dough, high hydration pizza dough, new york style pizza, pizza consistency systems, restaurant workflow efficiency, small menu pizzeria, pizza by the slice, pizza oven management, pizza SOPs, scaling a restaurant, pizza content creation, restaurant social media strategy, pizza consulting, pizza entrepreneur story, food business podcast, behind the scenes pizzeria, pizza making process, dough fermentation tips, pizza equipment workflow, independent pizzeria, pizza industry insights

What happens when you open a slice shop during a pandemic, with no dining room and no walk-in traffic?

In this episode, we sit down with Lars Smith, Chef and Co-Owner of State of Mind Slice House and the mind behind State of Mind Slice House in Palo Alto. Lars shares how lessons from past failures, smart pricing, and intentional design helped him build a high-performing slice shop during and after the pandemic.

Highlights:

0:52 – Opening during the pandemic

1:39 – Why smaller restaurants are winning right now

2:14 – Location strategy without foot traffic

3:27 – Designing the slice case

4:27 – Freshness standards and waste control

4:56 – Pricing slices and accounting for waste

5:51 – Customer-first mindset vs cost-saving mindset

6:21 – Weekly sales and waste benchmarks

6:53 – Scaling recipes from restaurant to slice shop

7:46 – Advice for aspiring slice shop owners

8:34 – Designing customer flow for high-volume service

9:19 – Final thoughts and takeaways

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What if everyone told you your pizzeria would fail because of its location — and you proved them wrong by selling 275 pizzas in just four hours?

In this episode of What’s Good Dough, we sit down inside Fired Pizza in Stockton, CA — a pizzeria that broke nearly every “rule” people swear by in the restaurant industry.

From being told their location would never work, to transitioning from a mobile pizza trailer to a full brick-and-mortar restaurant, this conversation goes deep on resilience, smart compromises, and building a business that customers choose to go out of their way for.

We talk pizza philosophy, Neapolitan vs expectations, pricing challenges, build-out realities, and what it actually takes to survive (and thrive) in today’s pizza landscape.

Highlights:

0:00 – Why this pizzeria “should’ve failed”

1:00 – Selling 200–275 pizzas in a single night

1:55 – From food truck muscle memory to restaurant survival

2:20 – Keeping the menu simple on purpose

3:25 – Oven temps, bake times, and “send it straight to hell”

3:55 – Educating customers on Neapolitan pizza

4:50 – Ranch on pizza (yes, proudly)

5:30 – Less cheese, more balance

6:30 – Why pizza was always the end goal

7:10 – Betting half their savings on a mobile pizza trailer

8:10 – The worst first catering event imaginable

9:00 – Why beer and wine drive ~30% of revenue

10:00 – Pricing reality: $18 pizzas and customer pushback

13:25 – Building out the restaurant themselves

14:30 – A full year to open the doors

15:05 – “What’s Good Dough?”

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