Jordan, Damon & Tony are curious – did anyone really learn to be an anti-racist?

We play a ridiculously titled “You Ain’t Black”, discuss our thoughts on last years social “reckoning” one year later, and look internally at confidence we gained in speaking truth about injustice in any situation.

This week we welcome author and political commentator Keith Boykin to our Surface Level Family. He discusses his favorite quote by Audre Lorde, his experience with activism in the 90’s, and gives important commentary around the history of White backlash in politics through the lens of his new book Race Against Time. This episode is equal parts fun and informative and we are happy to share.

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