One of the challenges to counting all the people who identify as Native American or Alaska Native is squaring federal definitions of identity with tribal ones. Mark Trahant, editor-at-large for ICT, and Dee Alexander, Intergovernmental Tribal Affairs Specialist with the U.S. Census Bureau, join host Krys Boyd to discuss the ways the government counts tribal affiliation vs. the ways tribes count their roles, and how the U.S. government is encouraging cross-department data sharing and collection.