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Happy New Year, Groovers! This week, we're taking some time-off and sharing an oldie but a goodie - our conversation with Ayelet Fishbach.
The start of a new year often brings fresh motivation...and then we burnout. But why? In this recast, we are joined by Dr. Ayelet Fishbach to explore why willpower-driven resolutions fail and how behavioral science offers a smarter way to set goals that last. Through an examination of her research, we unpack meta-motivation, the problem with "the middle" and how you can design your goals better so that they carry momentum through January and beyond.
©2025 Behavioral Grooves
[0:00] Motivation and Willpower - a New Perspective with Ayelet Fishbach
[3:19] The Marshmallow Test and Its Misinterpretation
[7:52] Meta Motivation and Its Implications
[14:28] The Role of Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation
[18:17] Problems Around Goal Achievement
[32:41] The Important of Aspirational Goals
[42:58] Strategies for Overcoming the Problem of "the Middle"
[48:33] Key Takeaways
©2025 Behavioral Grooves
About Ayelet
Get It Done: Surprising Lessons from the Science of Motivation
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By Kurt Nelson, PhD and Tim Houlihan4.9
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Happy New Year, Groovers! This week, we're taking some time-off and sharing an oldie but a goodie - our conversation with Ayelet Fishbach.
The start of a new year often brings fresh motivation...and then we burnout. But why? In this recast, we are joined by Dr. Ayelet Fishbach to explore why willpower-driven resolutions fail and how behavioral science offers a smarter way to set goals that last. Through an examination of her research, we unpack meta-motivation, the problem with "the middle" and how you can design your goals better so that they carry momentum through January and beyond.
©2025 Behavioral Grooves
[0:00] Motivation and Willpower - a New Perspective with Ayelet Fishbach
[3:19] The Marshmallow Test and Its Misinterpretation
[7:52] Meta Motivation and Its Implications
[14:28] The Role of Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivation
[18:17] Problems Around Goal Achievement
[32:41] The Important of Aspirational Goals
[42:58] Strategies for Overcoming the Problem of "the Middle"
[48:33] Key Takeaways
©2025 Behavioral Grooves
About Ayelet
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