This week, the All Things Sustainable podcast (formerly ESG Insider) reached 2 million downloads. Today, we bring you an interview with the largest bank in the US.

We sit down with Brian DiMarino, Managing Director and Deputy Director of Global Sustainability, Strategy and Operations at JPMorganChase. He explains how the bank is navigating a challenging sustainability landscape, including its decision to exit the Net-Zero Banking Alliance, and why he believes it's time for a "rebrand" of some of the language companies use when communicating about sustainability topics.

At the same time, he says JPMorgan's focus on sustainability is "steadfast."

"Science has told us what we need to do. Technology has told us we can do it and economics will tell us whether it gets done or not," Brian tells us.

This interview took place at a live event we hosted in New York City on Feb. 6 to celebrate the podcast's anniversary and the launch of our new name. All Things Sustainable reflects an idea we've heard repeatedly from guests over the past six seasons: Solutions to big sustainability challenges require action from all sectors and all stakeholders.

You can hear more highlights from our Feb. 6 event in last week's special anniversary episode: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/how-companies-are-navigating-2025-sustainability-challenges-a-new-podcast-name-

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