Retired surgeon, psychotherapist, and author Patrick Hudson discusses his article, "Why we fear being forgotten more than death itself." The conversation explores the profound difference between the biological act of dying and the existential fear of vanishing from the story of the world. Patrick explains that for many, the true anxiety surrounding death is not about the end of life, but the end of mattering. He shares how his own heart attack transformed this question from a medical abstraction into a personal reality, revealing that dying is often a slow erosion of self that happens long before our final breath. The discussion delves into how our need to leave a legacy is an attempt to outlive ourselves and how the only antidote to the fear of losing control of our narrative is to live with clarity, love honestly, and forgive early. This episode offers listeners a chance to reflect on mortality not as something to be fixed, but as a concept that can teach us how to live more fully in the present.

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