Wild with Sarah Wilson

Wild with Sarah Wilson

By Sarah Wilson

Sarah Wilson chats wild ideas for a fired up life.


The multi-New York Times bestselling author, activist, minimalist and former news journalist who founded the global phenomenon ‘I Quit S

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  1. Number 1: JOHN SEED: Is Deep Ecology the answer?

    John Seed (Deep Ecology OG, global rainforest steward) says we can’t save the world. And that the planetary crisis is not a failure of information or awareness; it’s a failure of human identity. We have the story, the mindset, all wrong. And we need to change it (from human chauvinism to deep ecological connection) if we’re to keep spinning in the Earth’s embrace. John is a globally respected Australian rainforest activist and one of the foundational figures of the global Deep Ecology movement. He collaborated for decades with the late Joanna Macy – they co-wrote How To Think Like a Mountain and developed a “re-earthing” technique called Council of All Beings. John’s activist work - via the Rainforest Information Centre he founded - has seen rainforests around the world receive various forms of protection status, including World Heritage listings. In this chat, John and I get to “the work that reconnects”, how to use our despair and numbness to lift into action and how to get around our fear of “woo woo”. SHOW NOTESHere is the Features of Narara Ecovillage that John mentions at the end of the episode.You can subscribe to John’s SubstackLearn more about the Rainforest Information Centre here, and follow him on Instagram and YouTubeYou can catch up on my episode with Meg Wheatley (in which we discuss “islands of sanity”) here --- Watch on YouTube or Substack If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my "about" page For more such conversations, subscribe to my Substack newsletter, it’s where I interact the most! Let’s connect on Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  2. Number 2: INDY JOHAR: "How do we prepare the world for what’s coming?"

    Indy Johar (founder of Dark Matter Labs, systems designer) closes this 12-part series on the life-enhancing “what comes next” that we need (and want) to be creating. Indy is one of the world’s most original voices on redesigning societies and he has a radical thesis that brings together most of the themes we’ve discussed so far. He calls it “civilisational optionality”. Our job is not to save civilisation or to know what comes next…. It’s to preserve or expand the capacity for life (that is, humanity and the living world) to adapt to whatever comes next. Indy is an architect and Professor of Planetary Civics at Melbourne’s RMIT and the University of Sheffield. He has advised organisations including the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, and governments across Europe and the UK, helping them solve all kinds of complex, entangled problems. In this very wild conversation, Indy returns to Wild to loop together many of the themes of this series – emergence, fascism, steering AI to a pro-human future and, importantly, wrestling with what it means to be human. An expansive, fun and very real finale, to be sure! SHOW NOTESYou can listen to our previous conversation: The Starkest Collapse Prognosis I’ve HeardWe discuss game theory, and I point to a former Wild interview that explains this, specifically “Moloch”. Catch up here.I reference Indy’s Substack essay on the collapse of the self. --- Watch on YouTube or Substack If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my "about" page For more such conversations, subscribe to my Substack newsletter, it’s where I interact the most! Let’s connect on Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  3. Number 3: SARAH STEIN LUBRANO: How do we change people’s minds about what’s happening to the world?

    Sarah Stein Lubrano (neuroscientist, political scientist, former obituary writer!) is an expert in how to change people’s minds most effectively and for the betterment of all beings. In this chat, we talk through why the techniques that dominated the “old world” – debate, reason, bludgeoning people with facts – no longer serve us. We then go through how persuasion and change will need to work going forward, as we find ourselves needing to cooperate and communicate more effectively than ever before. We cover the role of third spaces, why fascist governments always want to shut down cafes, the “gateway” rituals, practices and spaces that get people to open into change as well as how to talk about collapse with people still stuck in a linear mindset (essentially the content of her new book Don’t Talk About Politics, How to Change 21st Century Minds). Sarah is the head of research for The Future Narratives Lab, which focuses on narratives about social and political change, and serves on the Institute of Imagination’s Global Imagination Board. She was previously the head of content at Alain de Botton’s School of Life. SHOW NOTES You can get your copy of Sarah’s book Don’t Talk About Politics: How to Change 21st-Century Minds here. You can also follow her work on socials.Here’s the Substack post that Sarah mentions toward the end: "Don't Talk About Politics"Alain de Botton was also a Wild guest, and you can listen to his episode here. ---- Watch on YouTube or Substack If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my "about" page For more such conversations, subscribe to my Substack newsletter, it’s where I interact the most! Let’s connect on Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  4. Number 4: RUTH BEN-GHIAT: How do we create a values-led politic from this mess?

    Ruth Ben-Ghiat (historian of fascism +NYT bestselling author of Strongmen) is an internationally recognised expert in how psychologically unstable men come to power and use corruption, sexual predation, staged victimhood and violence to rule. She’s recently, however, turned her focus to how societies subjected to such tyranny have survived and fought back…using moral authority. Ruth is an American history professor at New York University and a political commentator with an expertise in fascism and authoritarian leaders. Her 2020 book Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present was a global bestseller. She publishes the hugely popular Substack Lucid, a newsletter on threats to democracy and will publish her next book, Resisting Autocracy: What History Teaches About Fighting Back, next year. SHOW NOTES Be sure to check out her Substack LucidPurchase Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present hereYou can catch up on the Ece Temelkuran episode hereThis episode with Lindsey Stonebridge on Hannah Arendt’s ideas on resistance might also interest you ----- Watch on YouTube or Substack If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my "about" page For more such conversations, subscribe to my Substack newsletter, it’s where I interact the most! Let’s connect on Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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  5. Number 5: ZAK STEIN: How do we raise kids in a metacrisis?

    Zak Stein (Harvard philosopher of education, AI + kids expert) is worried that we are not raising and educating our kids for the kind of wobbly, harsh future they will be inheriting. Zak is a Harvard philosopher of education and co-founder of the Centre for World Philosophy and Religion. He is also the co-founder of the Civilisation Research Institute and the Consilience Project, and the author of Education in a Time Between Worlds. I asked Zak to join me to answer the kinds of questions parents and teachers everywhere are asking. What kind of education matters now? Is it about being keyed into AI or radically rejecting it? What should young people be studying at college/university if entry-level jobs are now being wiped? Should we be pushing success or adaptability onto kids? What should be done with the social media bans? SHOW NOTES Learn more about Zak's work here.Get your copy of Education in a Time Between Worlds: Essays on the Future of Schools, Technology, and SocietyIf you want more ideas about raising kids amid…all of this…you might enjoy this chat with Anya Kamenetz: AMA: How do I parent in the face of so much existential crisis? -- Watch on YouTube or Substack If you need to know a bit more about me… head to my "about" page For more such conversations, subscribe to my Substack newsletter, it’s where I interact the most! Let’s connect on Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

    1h 12min
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