This episode begins with news! Layla and Rob’s podcast thread is changing, from a solitary focus on how mixed-gender ministry partnerships work in the field to a wider discussion about how egalitarians can practically engage not just interpersonal dynamics, but systems, theology, culture, and more. And the best guests to talk about this shift? Layla and Rob! Join the hosts as they answer listener-generated questions about podcasting as a medium, what they’ve learned along the way, their own history as partners, and what their hopes are for the church going forward.  

00:00 Welcome to Mutuality Matters: Embracing Egalitarian Convictions 

00:46 Shifting Focus: Broadening the Conversation Beyond Ministry Partnerships 

01:56 Celebrating Our Journey: A Self-Interview on Mixed Gender Partnerships 

05:24 Listener Q&A: Insights and Anecdotes from Behind the Scenes 

09:06 Challenges and Opportunities: Learning from Our Podcasting Experience 

20:51 Reflecting on Partnership: Our Personal Journey and Future Hopes 

28:46 Gratitude and Goodbyes: Wrapping Up the Podcast Thread 

Bios: 

Layla Van Gerpen has served with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship for over twenty years in California and Nevada. She also serves on the preaching team at her church, Midtown Vineyard. She is passionate about developing leaders, especially around areas of race and gender. As a Lebanese/Japanese daughter of immigrants, Layla grew up with a deep love for hospitality, cross-cultural relationships, and advocacy work. Together with her husband, Daniel, they find joy raising their two boys, Everett and Grant. 

Rob Dixon lives in central California with his wife Amy and their four children, and works as a campus minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. He earned a Doctor of Intercultural Studies degree at Fuller Theological Seminary, where he focused on discerning the attributes of flourishing mixed-gender ministry partnerships. Rob is the author of Together in Ministry: Women and Men in Flourishing Partnerships. In his free time, Rob roots for the Dodgers, teaches at Fresno Pacific University, and plays as much pickleball as possible. Find him online at drrobdixon.com. 

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