More than 50 percent of some of New Zealand's big companies and government agencies don't have a fair representation of women in the top ranks of their organisations. The group Champions of Change, a collective of more than 80 leading CEOs and Chairs, looks at diversity, equity and inclusion across 62 organisations, surveying an average annual workforce of more than 112,000 workers across Aotearoa. Only six companies from the collective have completely closed the power gap - among them BNZ, Fonterra and Treasury. 11 boards have less than 40 percent representation of women. The collective said it's on target to have a hundred percent of its boards gender-balanced by 2027. Co-Chair for Champions of Change, Roger Gray, who is also CEO of Auckland Port spoke to Lisa Owen.