Join Tally and Kim as they chat with Claire Dederer, the author of the coming-of-middle-age memoir Love and Trouble, and an upcoming book about art created by bad men. We're talking about what a midlife crisis looks like for women, dealing with the encroaching darkness (yikes!), dancing while drunk, the importance of friendship above all else, and so much more.

Our show's Instagram is @eifpodcast and you can find Kim on her blog Girls of a Certain Age.

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