Can we design workplaces to be truly fair? Behavioral economist Iris Bohnet joins us to explore how implicit biases, stereotypes, and in-group preferences shape decision-making in the workplace—and what we can do about it. From the impact of blind auditions to the power of small structural changes, we dive into science-backed strategies for fostering more equitable organizations.

[0:00] Episode Intro - Can We Make Work Fair?

[5:58] Speed Round with Iris Bohnet

[7:29] The Hidden Impact of In-Group Bias

[14:35] Implicit Bias and the IAT Test - Explained

[18:44] Nature vs. Nurture in Bias

[24:45] Case Study: NYC Fire Department and Hiring Reform

[35:41] The Power (and Pitfalls) of Incentives and Fairness

[41:35] Desert Island Music

[45:23] Grooving Session: The Impact of In-Group Bias on Organizations

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