Why Americans have a problematic relationship with work, and how to move toward a rational future (as opposed to a national emergency) of working from home.

Host of Vox Conversations: Sean Illing (@seanilling), Interviews Writer, Vox

Guests: Anne Helen Petersen (@annehelen) & Charlie Warzel (@cwarzel), authors

References: 

Out of Office: The Big Problem and Bigger Promise of Working from Home by Charlie Warzel and Anne Helen Petersen (Knopf; Dec. 7, 2021)

"How millennials became the burnout generation" by Sean Illing, in conversation with Anne Helen Petersen (Vox; Dec. 3, 2020)

This episode of Vox Conversations was made by:

Producer: Erikk Geannikis

Editor: Amy Drozdowska

Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey

Deputy Editorial Director, Vox Talk: Amber Hall

Vox Audio Fellow: Victoria Dominguez

Additional engineering by: Melissa Pons, Hemlock Creek Productions

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