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This is the third installment with Ylva and Alexander. This time we talk about the anteroom (mellanrum). This is the concept of the space between worlds where we can begin sensing and moving into what will come next. This is a powerful conversation about what it takes to go beyond the current paradigm. It is for those that are curious and interested about what is to come next. For those that have perhaps let go of some of what this world has to offer. For those that are doing this for something bigger than themselves, that long to be in service. Enjoy!
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Ralph Thurm (LinkedIn), Managing director of r3.0 joined me on the podcast. We spoke of the work r3.0 is doing and regenerative transformation. We spoke of the evolution of the field of sustainability, what it means to regeneratively redesign, as well as the flaws (and as what r3.0 has done to amend them) of the current discourse of sustainability. We also spoke of the topics of post-collapse readiness, the connection between micro and macro, bioregionalism, membranes, boundaries and measurement. This is a rich conversation for beginning to understand what a regenerative economy could contain.
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Linda Jarnhamn (LinkedIn) founder of Flow2thrive came on the podcast and we spoke about productivity, brains and culture change. Linda's perspective on how we can leverage data to invite people to begin their journeys and how wearable's are wonderful tools to remember what it feels like to 'feel good'. We also speak about collective interoception and why most workplaces aren't productive - even though people are working very hard. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul
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Alex Carabi coach, author and fellow curious on the discovery of a relational world. We speak about Alex's journey into coaching as well as his book On Relationality and Alex beautifully unfolds some of Martin Bubers thinking. We speak of relationality, of risk or perceived risk, including the other and utilizing the other, attending and different types of attention as well as intimacy. This is a beautiful, thought provoking, warm and wise conversation that I recommend deeply. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul
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Professor Dovev Lavie is an economics professor that began experimenting with new forms of economic exchange during the pandemic. A concept he developed and unfolded in his book. More info can be found here Cooperative Economy. This conversations take us through some of the symptoms of the current economy and we discuss underlying causes as well as possible solutions like looking at purchasing power adjusted pricing, promoting and incentivizing pro-social behavior and other similar concepts that Dovev has developed in his book. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul
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This is a solo episode with a reflection for the new year. My 111th episode as co-host of the World of Wisdom podcast. I touch upon 3 topics that are central in my current exploration: the idea of hospicing modernity, why the work I've been involved with around the masculine and the feminine seems to be about the other and getting off the map and into the territory and finally I propose what creation looks like in the realm of the masculine and feminine. If you want more of me either check out my Substack or my (new!) webpage. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul
Nora Bateson founder of Warm data labs and author of the book Combining came on the podcast for a warm, worldbending conversation. We speak of this world we live in and what it means to be involved in its unfolding through some of the concepts in Noras current book Combining. We speak of confusion, complexity, abouting, readying, shifting, communication, range, side by siding, the need for discontinuation, changing maps and how the territory always wins. This conversation has had me say "as Nora said" for weeks... perhaps you will to. Enjoy.
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Mandy Martini Chihuailaf (webpage) came on the podcast. We spoke about indigenous wisdom, remembering, and why our western culture seems to be so stuck. Mandy works with indigenous approaches to moving through trauma and stress. Healing it by completing they cycle, just like any other wound. We also spoke of our current perdicament, remembering who you are and the different steps in teaching. The importance in her tradition to show and allow the one that is learning to then take their own steps. Even when it comes to hard lessons... this is a down to earth, wonderful conversation touching a place outside the dominant culture.
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Chapter:
00:00 Introduction to Indigenous Wisdom
03:21 Preserving Indigenous Traditions
06:17 The Impact of Trauma
10:33 The Illusion of Progress
16:55 Living in Balance with Nature
20:09 Healing from Trauma
23:15 The Natural Cycle of Trauma
28:29 The Cost of Staying Stuck
31:33 Accepting Indigenous Knowledge
36:05 Starting the Healing Journey
40:25 The Role of Community
46:25 Acceptance and Trust
48:49 Showing by Example
49:31 Being a Full Human Being
50:26 Building Courage to Show Up
51:00 Teaching Through Stories
53:26 The Importance of Listening
54:45 Sharing Through Stories
56:02 Telling Stories Without Preconceived Conclusions
57:19 Attaching Feelings to Actions
59:48 Creating Change and Feeling Good
01:00:38 Land Project and Indigenous Learning Center
Darcia Narvaez, Professor of Psychology at Notre Dame university (web, university) has lived many contexts and careers before she started her research on the Evolved nest and the kinship worldview. She has written a number of books on the topic of how we care for our children, or lack of care for them, has deep implications for the world we live in today. This conversation centers around that concept and how we can break the cycle (film) and re-imagine humanity (film) in ways that take us in more regenerative directions. This is an incredibly important and timely conversation. Host: Amit Paul
Merlin Bola (Grow in Flow, LinkedIn) is a fellow curious building regenerative bridges into the fog, into whatever is to come next. This conversation is a wide ranging exploration into the realms at the edges of science and what is to come. We deal with quantum darwinism, neurodiversity, other perspectives on our brains (and bodies) self healing capabilities and the energy generating capacity of water. This is a conversation that takes us through many possibilities of what may come next. Enjoy! Host Amit Paul
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