So excited to share this week’s episode, featuring the one and only Nora McInerny Purmort (a.k.a. @NoraBorealis), founder of the non-profit Still Kickin, author of the new book It’s Okay to Laugh (Crying is Cool Too), mother to precocious pooper Ralph, and all around amazing human. We talk tragedy porn and how it lets us try on the grief that ultimately awaits us all, traveling with a three-year-old, the thrill of making something as real as an honest-to-God BOOK, the joys of therapy, and how public speaking is awesome–once it’s over. Stick a dog in your shirt and some earbuds in your head, friend. We’re dishing up a lot of realness here. xoxo

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This week we sit down with the luscious Lucia Hawley (a.k.a. @essentialomnivo), nutritional therapist to the stars! (Or at least the stars of this here podcast.) Jenn and Kate have both learned so much from Lucia about how to approach food in an empowering, positive, healthy way, and they’re super jazzed to introduce her to you and share a little (delicious) taste of her wisdom with the world. We talk organic farms (where you can learn a little about veggies and a lot about people), lingual neural tests (whoa), circus peanuts (do they still make those?) and where we all fall on the woo-woo scale (spoiler alert: Kate’s a 12 out of 10). Also, as usual, poop. Poop is really important, you guys. But don’t take our word for it. Let Lucia tell ya…

This week it’s all about what we’re reading, what we’re watching, and how we’re reading and watching it. Jenn is so far down Kindle road, she forgot how real books work (Kate: “You…hold it in your hands”). However you get words in your brain, the XOXOJK Book Club has got some preach-hands-emoji-worthy recommendations for you. And as Kate says, “The more books you read, the more books you will read.” Shhhh…just think about it. Then tune in and drop out with some TV. We talk Homeland, House of Cards, Girls, Game of Thrones, impossible-to-remember character names and the crazy crushable Peter Dinklage before segueing into a little politics…and gender politics. Can we get some preach-hands?

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— Jenn Schaal (@JennSchaal) April 8, 2016

@kaeti @kevinschaul I would like to marry Kevin so I could be Jenn Schaal Schaul

— Jenn Schaal (@JennSchaal) April 8, 2016

Jenn:

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Kate:

I was promised that hippos have:
-two cute teeth on top
-two cute teeth on bottom
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— Steve Wolfhard (@wolfhard) April 2, 2016

Welcome to our very first bonus episode! After we finished recording Episode 52, to absolutely no one’s surprise we just kept talking OJ, specifically about the infamous ‘if it doesn’t fit you must acquit’ glove. Our producer kept recording. And now, here it is for you to enjoy. Thanks for listening, and see you next week on XOXOJK.

This week, it’s all about the O.J. (not the juice, though now we kind of want some.) We’re flashing back to 1994, along with everyone else who can’t get enough of The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story on FX. Whether you haven’t gotten around to tuning in or you’re totally on the bandwagon, we’ve got you covered. Our guest, Pahoua Yang Hoffman, is pretty much a Ph.D. in the O.J. case and packs four books’ worth of fascinating info, history and trivia into this one podcast. Jenn’s also largely in the know and Kate is charmingly in awe for most of the episode. Here it is, folks: our comprehensive guide to the O.J. American crime story.

This week, we pack a lot of realness into one 30 minute episode. Did you know poop talk makes relationships stronger? By this measure, Jenn and her BF are titanium-grade after a little bout of Montezuma’s revenge during their vacation in Mexico. Also in this episode: accidental fisting on live TV, Apple’s awesome short film about autism and accessibility features, “niche tweets,” and (drum roll) more info on the XOXOJK Book Club (the most low-pressure book club ever–no appetizer-making required). We’re more excited than Kristen Wiig the night before going to Disney World. What? Just listen…it’ll all become clear…

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@cleverkate @JennSchaal @xoxojkpodcast weren't you *just* talking about this? https://t.co/IBkWvwdmsK

— Hannah Meacock Ross (@HannahMeacock) March 31, 2016

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Jenn:

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Kate:

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This week, we put on our word-nerd pants, and dive in to some real talk about the best brain food of all: BOOKS! Dirty books, funny books, books that make you laugh AND cry (we’re looking at you, Nora), and books that make you better. We love ’em all. We talk about how Goodreads makes it easy to see what your buds are reading and share recommendations and reading lists. What’s that? You think an XOXOJK Bookclub sounds bomb dot com? Weird. US TOO! Like a big Sisterhood of the Traveling Word-Nerd Pants…

It’s Okay to Laugh (Crying Is Cool, Too) – Nora Mcinerny Purmort’s Book

In this week’s episode, we learn that Jenn has reached a major life milestone (and personal goal): she’s in a Facebook-official relationship. She set this goal on an earlier episode of XOXJK and Kate has a question: What’s next? ICYMI, Kate got married. And as it turns out, if you choose the right person for the right reasons, it can be pretty sweet. Pouncing on the sweetness (and the change), she decides to take a 10-day course — The Daily Action Course by Anthony Ongaro of Break the Twitch, which helps you look at how you’re currently spending your days/time and build new habits/carve out time to reach goals you’re working on (or not working on; kind of the point). She signed up to support Anthony, a friend, and wound up finding it to be exactly what she needed. We then talk tweets of the week, like professionals, and we’re off and running! Enjoy.

Jenn:

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Kate:

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WE’RE BACK IN THE SADDLE and by saddle I mean couch to record fresh new episodes of XOXOJK just for you. We came together to talk about boyfriends, food, the election and our lack of Twitter usage this week. Sally Franson, friend extraordinaire, joins us and chimes in with her eternal wisdom WHICH IS ALL AROUND US. All three of us are doing an anti-inflammatory cleanse at the moment, Sally on her own and Jenn and Kate are doing the Solcana Essential You six week program. Stay tuned for more updates over the six weeks as we move our way through taking things out of our diet, how we feel when we do that, with Lucia Hawley, nutritionist extraordinaire, guiding us the whole time. We are lucky to know a lot of amazing women!

Kate:

Having a religious experience at @RevivalMpls. pic.twitter.com/GqKzWKSZfe

— Tom Horgen (@tomhorgen) January 8, 2016

@cleverkate @hansenwithane @RevivalMpls LEMME TELL YOU WHAT I DID WITH THE ORANGE SAUCE. White bread + chicken skin dipped in sauce. Damn.

— Tom Horgen (@tomhorgen) January 9, 2016

Jenn:

Reductress’ whole damn Twitter account

2016 is here and XOXOJK is back with new recordings for your earholes! Special guest this week is the creative-twerking-surviving-yoga practicing-teacher(ing)-comedian and all around snuggly SALLY FRANSON! Sally is an accomplished writer and creative living in Minneapolis whose hilarity and gentleness are life altering. She takes Kate and Jenn into some great crevices of conversation and inspiration and will make you want to hug and suck every inch of fun out of life. Also, she manages to reference Dow Jones which IS INCREDIBLE.

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Samsāra

The Saturn Return

Female Friends Spend Raucous Night Validating The Living Shit Out Of Each Other (The Onion)