Thomas Heremans is the CEO at the Obol Association.

In this episode, we dive into why decentralization isn’t just an ideology in crypto—it’s a critical security feature. We explore how Obol is strengthening Ethereum’s infrastructure, how much decentralization is enough, and why projects like Rocket Pool, Lido, and ether.fi are betting on Obol to secure the future of staking.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Intro
5:44 - The problem to solve with Obol
7:55 - Operator vs validator
9:07 - Obol Collective, Obol Association, Obol Labs
11:17 - How Obol enables the Ethereum blockchain to work
14:24 - Why does decentralization matter?
16:39 - How much decentralization is enough?
20:32 - Mantle mid-roll
21:10 - Is there a tradeoff to decentralization?
23:00 - Decentralization should be reframed as security
27:35 - Will Obol expand beyond Ethereum?
29:58 - Sponsor mid-roll
31:37 - The Obol product suite
36:52 - Why teams like Rocket Pool, Lido, and ether.fi love Obol
40:29 - OBOL token details
44:52 - Closing

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🔗 Guest Links 🔗

► Obol website: https://obol.org/
► Obol on X: https://x.com/obol_collective
► Thomas on X: https://x.com/_cryptoma

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