That New York Times interview that set women’s group chats on fire last week — the one that asked, “Did Liberal Feminism Ruin the Workplace?”

Well, technically, the original headline — the one quietly changed after an appropriate amount of hellfire rained down from every corner of the internet — read: “Did Women Ruin the Workplace?”

You could argue that the Times knew exactly what it was doing. The provocative headline did what it was meant to do: grab attention and spark a nationwide debate. And it worked.

This week, Steve Scaffidi and Kristin Brey decided to jump into that conversation.

On this episode of You Need to Listen, Steve and Kristin go beyond the clickbait headline to unpack the real question — how have women changed the workplace, especially over the span of Steve’s career? Kristin also dusts off her Women’s Studies background to explore what “conservative feminism” actually means.

If feminism is defined as “the social, economic, and political equality of all sexes” — or as Kristin puts it, “freedom from oppression based on gender” — then what does it look like when viewed through a conservative lens?

Tune in for a thoughtful, lively discussion that cuts through the outrage and gets to the heart of how gender, culture, and politics continue to shape our work lives today.

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Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi are the hosts of Point Taken on 620WTMJ, heard Monday through Friday, from 10a - 12:00p.

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