In a world where political discourse feels heavier than ever, Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi dive deep into their personal experiences with "Trump exhaustion" in the latest episode of You Need To Listen.

While acknowledging the complexities of discussing this Trump administration, they confront the challenges of maintaining civil discourse while addressing the unprecedented political climate. From the overwhelming influx of news to the struggle of balancing personal beliefs with professional responsibilities, Kristin and Steve share their candid thoughts on what it means to engage in political conversation today.

Join them as they explore the value of their roles in media, the impact of political lying, and the importance of providing a platform for both sides of the aisle. With a mix of frustration and determination, they seek to find a North Star to guide their discussions and engage their audience in meaningful ways. Is it time to rethink how we talk about politics? Tune in to discover their insights and reflections on the current state of our political landscape.

In 2022, social psychologist and author Jonathan Haidt wrote a piece for The Atlantic entitled “Why the past ten years of American life have been uniquely stupid”. Since that time, the country has seen the continue rise of unregulated social media, intense, and often violent political partisanship, and a further erosion of public civility played out at school board meetings, sporting events, and even at the local grocery store.

Recent polling has measured a growing distrust of media, a concern over political bias in general, and a partisan feud over what regulation of social media content would even look like.

On the latest episode of You Need to Listen, Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi look at the years since 2022 and offer their unique perspectives on how we got here, the current state of our dysfunctional culture, and what, if anything, we can do to reverse course.

This week on the You Need to Listen Podcast, Kristin and Steve take on the question, Are we in the era of stupidity?

Scaffidi and Brey are also the cohosts of Point Taken, which airs 10-Noon, weekdays on 620WTMJ.

Utah Governor Spencer Cox, speaking to the press in the aftermath of the assassination of conservative activist and podcaster Charlie Kirk,

called social media a “cancer” and said it “played a direct role in political violence”.

In the hours and days after the killing, millions of social media users posted content on their own pages both condemning, and in some cases, celebrating, the death of Kirk.

Notably, some users found themselves in the center of a social media firestorm when their content was highlighted, reposted, and in some cases, resulted in the termination of their employment.

The desire by some social media users to immediately react and respond to news events, and the negative reaction to those posts, is causing some to reconsider their commitments to social media platforms.

In the latest episode of You Need to Listen, Steve Scaffidi and Kristin Brey tackle one of the biggest questions of the always-on, social media world. Is it finally time to get off social media?

Scaffidi and Brey are the cohosts of Point Taken, which airs from 10-Noon, Monday through Friday on 620WTMJ. https://wtmj.com/point-taken/

You Need to Listen Pocast is available on the podcast page at wtmj.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

Add a new word to your dating vernacular.

Shrekking, which is, for lack of a better description, the lowering of your dating standards in the attempt to be treated better, only to experience relationship disappointment still.

Inspired by the movie Shrek, this is just one of the dating trend that exemplifies the superficial nature of modern dating. Another example? The 666 rule, which refers to men who are 6 feet tall, have six-pack abs and make over six figures.

In this latest episode of the You Need to Listen Podcast, Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi explore the evolving (or devolving) standards of dating and explore the problems facing singles. How do you match up, get along, and let's be honest, get it on?

Professional football player Travis Kelce and his brother Jason host the popular podcast New Heights. Travis is also the boyfriend of pop music superstar Taylor Swift.

On a recent episode, Swift joined the two brothers for a conversation about her music , their lives, and offered a glimpse into what may be a re-defining moment in the dynamics between men and women.

Can a football player known for playing a very violent sport and his songwriting, mega-artist girlfriend really rewrite the standard operating procedures when it comes to relationships?

Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi explore the metrics of men and their masculinity on this week's episode of the You Need to Listen Podcast.

Brey and Scaffidi are also the co-hosts of Point Taken, which airs 10-Noon, weekdays, on 620WTMJ.

In an interview with Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes fame, legendary talk show host Johnny Carson uttered these words. "Why do you think that just because you have a Tonight Show, that you have to deal with serious issues?", telling Wallace why he chose to stay out of politics on his show, which aired on NBC from 1962 to 1992.

Jay Leno, in a much more recent interview with the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Institute, echoed Carson's comments, saying, "talk show hosts that skew too much one way or the other politically can alienate viewers."

On this week's edition of You Need to Listen, Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi ask the question, are late night television hosts focusing too much on politics, and driving viewers away from their shows?

Comedy and Politics, on this week's edition of YNTL.

Scaffidi and Brey are the co-hosts of Point Taken on 620WTMJ, which airs Monday through Friday from 10:00 - Noon.

Just prior to winning The Open Championship in Ireland, professional Golfer Scottie Scheffler surprised a group of reporters with a lengthy, heartfelt answer about fulfillment and the point of being the best at what he does. He's repeatedly said that faith and family are his top priorities and golf comes in third.

What does fulfillment actually mean and how does it change as we mature? Does professional success impact your personal satisfaction and happiness in life? Should it?

Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi explore the connections between our work, our families, and our lives on this week's edition of You Need to Listen.

Brey and Scaffidi are also the co-hosts of Point Taken, which airs 10-Noon, Monday through Friday on 620WTMJ.

A new Pew Research survey https://www.deseret.com/business/2025/07/07/americans-wont-pay-for-news/ says only 1% of people will pay for a news service that requires a payment up front.

Is this creating a news and information desert or are people finding other ways to get their “news”?

Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi take on the real question on this week’s edition of the You Need to Listen Podcast.

Are news consumers turning off legacy media and turning on to alternative news sources?

Brey and Scaffidi are the hosts of Point Taken, which airs 10-12, Monday to Friday on 620WTMJ.

On this week’s episode of the You Need to Listen Podcast, Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi go back to the future and a look at a political world without Donald Trump in it.

Who will step up for Republicans and where will their party go next?

It’s the You Need to Listen Podcast, available wherever you get your podcasts, or at WTMJ.com.

Steve Scaffidi and Kristin Brey are also the cohosts of Point Taken, which airs Monday to Friday on 620WTMJ, from 10 a.m. to Noon.

The definition of empathy is the ability to understand and share the feelings of others.

Except, of course, when it comes to politics.

Recently, Elon Musk, tech titan and the richest person in the world, said this, "the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy".

Some leaders of the Christian Right have said that empathy could be a sin.

Have we lost our way when it comes to understanding that there may be a place for empathy in our current political environment and that the failure to understand that basic concept just might be making things worse?

Kristin Brey and Steve Scaffidi, host of the You Need to Listen Podcast, explore the mine field of relationships in the realm of politics on this week's episode of YNTL.