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"You Now Have Two Customers: The Human and Their Agent"


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Why humans won't shop alone anymore.

Raja Rajamannar, Senior Fellow at Mastercard, joins CoinDesk’s Sam Ewen for a conversation that is equal parts blockchain brand masterclass and roadmap for what marketing looks like when agents start making the decisions. Raja makes the case that agentic commerce doesn't simplify the marketer's job, it doubles it because now you have to win over the human and their agent, and the criteria for each are completely different.

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Timecodes:
0:00 – Rethinking sales: humans vs. AI agents
2:17 – Crypto's branding problem
5:47 – Preserving value and remittances as use cases
7:53 – Cash to credit cards: an early parallel to crypto
14:31 – Money, emotion, and the Mastercard brand journey
17:48 – Experiential marketing over traditional ads
19:00 – Mastercard-flavored macarons and sensory branding
20:17 – The rise of agentic commerce
24:38 – Marketing to both humans and their AI agents
29:20 – Building empathy into AI transactions

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