In this interview, Ajahn Kovilo and Ajahn Nisabho speak with Oren Jay Sofer on the topics (among others) of:

- his new book "Your Heart Was Made for This" (https://www.orenjaysofer.com/your-heart)

- insights to be gained by monastics from lay Dhamma teachers

- insights to be gained by lay Dhamma teachers from monastics

- structural sources of dukkha

- body contemplation as a lay practitioner

- advice for lay practitioners on how to deepen their practice