in this episode of the get clarity podcast, you're going to hear a conversation I had on the subject of relationships with two of my dear friends and colleagues, Jan and Chip Chipman. I recorded this interview with Jan and Chip at the same time as we were recording material for ClarityPro. Claritypro is our low-cost membership programme for people who want to share the principles like a pro with anybody, on any topic and in any situation. In ClarityPro, we cover a different topic every month, ranging from stress and anxiety to confidence & self-belief, and we give the members all the resources THEY need to share the principles effectively with the people they want to reach. Well, June's topic was relationships, and we were lucky enough to have Jan and Chip record an audience engagement lesson for our members on working with clients around the whole area relationships. And that brings us to this episode. What you're about to hear is a conversation I had with Jan and Chip Chipman, all about relationships. my team and I believe the most valuable things a person can discover is how their mind works and who they really are. And Jan and Chip are two of the people who I've really learned a lot from, particularly in the domain of relationships. They've been learning and sharing the inside-out understanding for over 40 years, and they've got a wealth of experiences working with individuals, couples, prison inmates, large companies and all points in between. And if that 'members only' session is of interest to you, you can check out the membership programme at jamiesmart.com/claritypro/. ClarityPro is our answer to the question of how to enable a person like you who's been touched by this understanding to share it impactfully with others, and it really is a brilliant resource for anyone looking to share this understanding right now with the people in their world. And when you join our community today, you'll also get a free ticket to attend one of our ClarityLive 2-Day Events. So to find out more and join ClarityPro go to jamiesmart.com/claritypro