I'm Jamie Smart - welcome to the podcast. And in this episode you're going to be hearing something I'm really pleased to share with you. It's a conversation I had with transformative coach David Bird, and here's one of the things I think you're going to find particularly interesting. The thing that motivated Birdey to explore the principles was this: he was already working as a hypnotherapist and coach, and he started attracting clients who he didn't actually know whether or not he could help. He wanted to find a way to have more certainty about the impact he could have with his clients. At or recent ClarityLive event, we had people joining us from all over the world, and there was an incredible sense of community, with lots of profound insights. And the theme was 'Making your living from the inside out', so I wanted to spotlight people who are taking this understanding into the world in a variety of ways. I had 'fireside chat' conversations with four Clarity Coaches who have been having a big impact in the world. And my idea for this was that we would be talking shop; the kind of conversation that I have with my colleagues over coffee, and that most people never get to hear. So in this podcast, you're going to be hearing my conversation with, David Bird. Just before we get to that, I wanted to mention that the doors are now open for the January 2022 intake of our flagship Clarity Certification Training programme. Clarity Certification has recently been accredited by the International Coaching Federation (the ICF) as a provider of Continuous Coach Education, so if you're already an ICF-certified coach, you can use the programme to earn CCE units. Either way, you can take part in CCT with full confidence that the programme is fully accredited by the ICF as a Continuous Coaching Education provider. And you can save up to £2000 when you book your place by the end of November. Just go to www.JamieSmart.com/coach that's www.JamieSmart.com/coach So now to the episode.