In this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, Jeff Cochran interviews author and pastor Tommy Preson Phillips about his new book "Invisible Jesus." They ask the question, what if people aren't deconstructing and leaving the church because they don't want Jesus? But what if they are leaving the church to find Him? This conversation will challenge what you think you know about the church, following Jesus, and the deconstruction movement. It's a can't miss conversation for Christians in the moment in time we find ourselves in today.