Rev. Sarah Ciavarri, M.Div., PCC, has been an ELCA Lutheran pastor since 2001 and also serves as a Certified Daring Way™ Facilitator-Consultant and Certified Dare to Lead™ Facilitator and Professional Certified Coach. Sarah has a huge passion for seeing congregations and church systems strengthened and transformed by developing resiliency and space for authentic conversations.

These two Sarah's discuss the gap between who we think we are and who we're called to be, the intricacies of religious wounding and how to allow space for others' beliefs. Sarah C also shares how her knowledge of shame taught her to read The Bible very differently.

"When faith isolates us from the brokenness of others; we're not connected."

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