Ready to dive into artificial intelligence in the therapy space?! Steve Duke, founder of The Hemingway Group, is back for part two of our conversation. Steve helps us think more purposefully about how we can AI-proof the relational component of therapy while acknowledging that the tech may make other aspects of the job easier, like note-taking.

GUEST BIO

Steve Duke (he/him) is the founder of The Hemingway Group - a business working with mental health organisations to help them succeed clinically and commercially. He also writes an industry publication called The Hemingway Report, which is read by thousands of mental health operators and clinicians each week. 

Authentic Leaders Group

 Are you a therapist stepping into leadership for the first time? Or maybe you've been in a leadership position for a while, but are bumping up against new struggles?

Our Authentic Leaders Group is here to help you become the authentic and wholehearted leader you aspire to be. And we believe this journey is best undertaken with the guidance of experienced mentors alongside fellow learners.

Join Sarah in this journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll enhance your leadership skills and forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field.

Join the waitlist now to be part of the next Authentic Leaders Group!

1:1 With Sarah

Wounded healers need supervision too. Sarah is passionate about fostering therapists’ personal and professional growth through mentoring, supervision, and consultation.

Mentoring options are available for therapists who are looking for a transformative supervision experience and practice owners who are looking for customized support.

Supervision not only plays a crucial role in the professional development and ethical practice of therapists, but also provides parallel process for our own healing.

In consultations, Sarah helps practice owners align their business with their lifestyle goals. Together, we'll look at both the concrete business practices as well as the emotional stuff that complicates business ownership.  

Reach out to find out more and book!

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Listener Feedback 2025

Help me to get to know you better and enter a massive giveaway!

Share your feedback & enter to win

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website

Facebook @headheartbiztherapy

Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

How are y’all doing while the United States (specifically) plummets into political, social, and economic freefall? Therapists are freaking tf out right with good reason. We're at a tipping point in the evolution of our field, especially when it comes to the rapid ascendancy of venture capital, consolidation, and technology––those AI chatbots lurking and learning in the digital shadows. 

I sound the alarm to encourage resistance. Steve Duke is one of the bright minds I turn to for data-driven inspiration and motivation. He founded The Hemingway Group, a business working with mental health organizations to help them succeed clinically and commercially. He’s parlayed his experiences at McKinsey and two unicorn startups to help leaders scale mental health innovations.

Steve Duke (he/him) is the founder of The Hemingway Group - a business working with mental health organisations to help them succeed clinically and commercially. He also writes an industry publication called The Hemingway Report, which is read by thousands of mental health operators and clinicians each week. 

Authentic Leaders Group

 Are you a therapist stepping into leadership for the first time? Or maybe you've been in a leadership position for a while, but are bumping up against new struggles?

Our Authentic Leaders Group is here to help you become the authentic and wholehearted leader you aspire to be. And we believe this journey is best undertaken with the guidance of experienced mentors alongside fellow learners.

Join Sarah in this journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll enhance your leadership skills and forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field.

Join the waitlist now to be part of the next Authentic Leaders Group!

1:1 With Sarah

Wounded healers need supervision too. Sarah is passionate about fostering therapists’ personal and professional growth through mentoring, supervision, and consultation.

Mentoring options are available for therapists who are looking for a transformative supervision experience and practice owners who are looking for customized support.

Supervision not only plays a crucial role in the professional development and ethical practice of therapists, but also provides parallel process for our own healing.

In consultations, Sarah helps practice owners align their business with their lifestyle goals. Together, we'll look at both the concrete business practices as well as the emotional stuff that complicates business ownership.  

Reach out to find out more and book!

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Listener Feedback 2025

Help me to get to know you better and enter a massive giveaway!

Share your feedback & enter to win

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

Website

Facebook @headheartbiztherapy

Instagram @headheartbiztherapy

How do you support group practice employees to feel connected, engaged, and motivated? HINT: It might have something to do with building the capacity to receive and act on feedback.

Mirjam Quinn (she/her) is a licensed clinical psychologist and the founder of Mirjam Quinn and Associates, a group practice in Chicago that provides affirming therapy, testing, and teaching to people 3 - 104 in Chicago and virtually around the country. Their practice mission is breaking patterns to foster connection, compassion, and community. She loves her three kids, her husband, her dog, the two non-profits she dedicates her free time to, and running. mirjamquinnandassociates.com

Instagram

MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE

Heart Rate Synchrony in Psychological Counseling: A Case Study

***

Group Practice (R)evolution is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future. Podcast episodes are available for free in this feed for a limited time. If you want to hear more episodes like this one…

Be one of the first leaders to join the Group Practice (R)evolution!

“I thought I knew what this conversation might be like. I had all my worries, concerns, and anticipations of what might be brought up––and it didn't go that way,” laughs Heather Lovegood. 

Intrigued?? 

Check out part one, and then come back here for the conclusion of my conversation with Heather, a holistic bodyworker and lymphatic drainage expert who provides healing-centered, trauma-trained services to clients in Chicago. We’re exploring the interconnectedness of everything, the subtle energy of Indigenous wisdom, and the power we claim (or not) in spaces where healing occurs.

GUEST BIO A long-time student of life, Heather Lovegood’s own healing path led her to the healing arts, specifically bodywork. Drawing from these tools for both her personal practice and her work with clients has been the deepest gift and greatest of teachers.

Authentic Leaders Group

 Are you a therapist stepping into leadership for the first time? Or maybe you've been in a leadership position for a while, but are bumping up against new struggles?

Our Authentic Leaders Group is here to help you become the authentic and wholehearted leader you aspire to be. And we believe this journey is best undertaken with the guidance of experienced mentors alongside fellow learners.

Join Sarah in this journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll enhance your leadership skills and forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field.

Join the waitlist now to be part of the next Authentic Leaders Group!

1:1 With Sarah

Wounded healers need supervision too. Sarah is passionate about fostering therapists’ personal and professional growth through mentoring, supervision, and consultation.

Mentoring options are available for therapists who are looking for a transformative supervision experience and practice owners who are looking for customized support.

Supervision not only plays a crucial role in the professional development and ethical practice of therapists, but also provides parallel process for our own healing.

In consultations, Sarah helps practice owners align their business with their lifestyle goals. Together, we'll look at both the concrete business practices as well as the emotional stuff that complicates business ownership.  

Reach out to find out more and book!

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Listener Feedback 2025

Help me to get to know you better and enter a massive giveaway!

Share your feedback & enter to win

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review of this show

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

My Website:

https://www.headheartbiztherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartBizTherapy/

Instagram:

@headheartbiztherapy

I’m a firm believer in the connectedness of everything. Healing happens at the intersection of spirituality, science, and Indigenous wisdom. Sure, each principle can (and has!) exist in its own sphere, but the true magic is in the mix.

Heather Lovegood agrees. She’s a holistic bodyworker and lymphatic drainage expert who provides healing-centered, trauma-trained services to clients in Chicago. She helps people build the capacity to identify and release buried, inflammatory emotions–those squishy, sticky, and often devastating sensations that our bodies hold onto in the wake of complex trauma or prolonged periods of stress. 

GUEST BIO

A long-time student of life, Heather Lovegood’s own healing path led her to the healing arts, specifically bodywork. Drawing from these tools for both her personal practice and her work with clients has been the deepest gift and greatest of teachers. 

Authentic Leaders Group

 Are you a therapist stepping into leadership for the first time? Or maybe you've been in a leadership position for a while, but are bumping up against new struggles?

Our Authentic Leaders Group is here to help you become the authentic and wholehearted leader you aspire to be. And we believe this journey is best undertaken with the guidance of experienced mentors alongside fellow learners.

Join Sarah in this journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll enhance your leadership skills and forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field.

Join the waitlist now to be part of the next Authentic Leaders Group!

1:1 With Sarah

Wounded healers need supervision too. Sarah is passionate about fostering therapists’ personal and professional growth through mentoring, supervision, and consultation.

Mentoring options are available for therapists who are looking for a transformative supervision experience and practice owners who are looking for customized support.

Supervision not only plays a crucial role in the professional development and ethical practice of therapists, but also provides parallel process for our own healing.

In consultations, Sarah helps practice owners align their business with their lifestyle goals. Together, we'll look at both the concrete business practices as well as the emotional stuff that complicates business ownership.  

Reach out to find out more and book! 

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Listener Feedback 2025

Help me to get to know you better and enter a massive giveaway!

Share your feedback & enter to win

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review of this show

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

My Website:

https://www.headheartbiztherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartBizTherapy/

Instagram:

@headheartbiztherapy

How do we bridge the divide between practice owners and employees in the therapy field to create better healing environments for everyone? 

Discover how innovation, open communication, and shared values can transform group practices, resulting in a culture of connection. Group Practice Revolution is a new platform and podcast series offering insights from owners, employees, and experts, and resources to support this wildly ambitious vision for the future!

Learn more about how you can join the Group Practice Revolution!

***

Group Practice (R)evolution platform is in beta testing mode! We're just getting everything up and running. But if you just CAN'T WAIT and want to join the revolution now, use code REVBETA25 to get a 3-month trial membership for $10! 

Leadership is lonely, y'all. It's also hella rewarding. Cara Chae, LCPC, knows this duality all too well. She's working on finding (and holding!) the balance between the two––an evolutionary pursuit that resonates with many. 

GUEST BIO

Cara Chae, LCPC, (she/her) is a psychotherapist working in a group private practice in Chicago. Her professional interests include working with issues related to Attachment (parenting, relationships, childhood wounds), and, more recently, Neuroplastic Symptoms. Cara’s second full time job is parenting her two elementary school aged children while trying to simultaneously take care of herself, too.

Authentic Leaders Group

 Are you a therapist stepping into leadership for the first time? Or maybe you've been in a leadership position for a while, but are bumping up against new struggles?

Our Authentic Leaders Group is here to help you become the authentic and wholehearted leader you aspire to be. And we believe this journey is best undertaken with the guidance of experienced mentors alongside fellow learners.

Join Sarah in this journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll enhance your leadership skills and forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field.

Join the waitlist now to be part of the next Authentic Leaders Group!

1:1 With Sarah

Wounded healers need supervision too. Sarah is passionate about fostering therapists’ personal and professional growth through mentoring, supervision, and consultation.

Mentoring options are available for therapists who are looking for a transformative supervision experience and practice owners who are looking for customized support.

Supervision not only plays a crucial role in the professional development and ethical practice of therapists, but also provides parallel process for our own healing.

In consultations, Sarah helps practice owners align their business with their lifestyle goals. Together, we'll look at both the concrete business practices as well as the emotional stuff that complicates business ownership.  

Reach out to find out more and book! 

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Listener Feedback 2025

Help me to get to know you better and enter a massive giveaway!

Share your feedback & enter to win

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review of this show

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

My Website:

https://www.headheartbiztherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartBizTherapy/

Instagram:

@headheartbiztherapy

Cue the klieg lights and gift bags because THIS episode marks the seventh anniversary of Conversations With A Wounded Healer! Major thanks to everyone from the OG fans to the newbies. I couldn’t do it without you, which is the perfect segue to today’s episode.

Cara Chae, LCPC, is a psychotherapist at Inner Voice Psychotherapy, a group private practice in Chicago. She focuses on issues related to attachment (parenting, relationships, childhood wounds) and, more recently, neuroplastic symptoms. Cara also spent eight months as a member of my Authentic Leaders Group. I thought it might be interesting to explore some of her a-ha! moments and group experience on the podcast.

GUEST BIO

Cara Chae, LCPC, (she/her) is a psychotherapist working in a group private practice in Chicago. Her professional interests include working with issues related to Attachment (parenting, relationships, childhood wounds), and, more recently, Neuroplastic Symptoms. Cara’s second full time job is parenting her two elementary school aged children while trying to simultaneously take care of herself, too.

***

GET TO KNOW THE GUESTS FEATURED IN OUR ANNIVERSARY GIVEAWAY!

Reframing and Repairing Our Relationship to Power With Amanda Aguilera, The Right Use of Power Institute

Loretta Pyles - Radical Self-Care and Rewilding in Everyday Practice

Shelly Tochluk – A Roadmap for White Folks to Discard Shame, Dismantle Whiteness, and Live an Anti-Racist Life

Virginia Castillo - Clairvoyance, Spiritual Development and Unexpected Career Paths

Mishara Winston - A Model for Communal Mental Wellness

Mishara Winston - Eat Snacks / Take Naps

Kira Macoun - Somatic Movement And Embodied Activism

Allison Staiger - Rage And The Emotional Labor Of Parenting

Annie Schuessler, Rebel Therapist - Make an Impact Beyond Traditional Private Practice

The Burnt Out Practice Owner: What Do You Do When Managing Your Group Practice Starts To Feel Like A Burden? With Rebel Therapist™ Creator Annie Schuessler

 Are you a therapist stepping into leadership for the first time? Or maybe you've been in a leadership position for a while, but are bumping up against new struggles?

Our Authentic Leaders Group is here to help you become the authentic and wholehearted leader you aspire to be. And we believe this journey is best undertaken with the guidance of experienced mentors alongside fellow learners.

Join Sarah in this journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you'll enhance your leadership skills and forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field.

Join the waitlist now to be part of the next Authentic Leaders Group!

Wounded healers need supervision too. Sarah is passionate about fostering therapists’ personal and professional growth through mentoring, supervision, and consultation.

Mentoring options are available for therapists who are looking for a transformative supervision experience and practice owners who are looking for customized support.

Supervision not only plays a crucial role in the professional development and ethical practice of therapists, but also provides parallel process for our own healing.

In consultations, Sarah helps practice owners align their business with their lifestyle goals. Together, we'll look at both the concrete business practices as well as the emotional stuff that complicates business ownership.  

Reach out to find out more and book! 

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Listener Feedback 2025

Help me to get to know you better and enter a massive giveaway!

Share your feedback & enter to win

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review of this show

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

My Website:

https://www.headheartbiztherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartBizTherapy/

Instagram:

@headheartbiztherapy

If you missed Part One of my conversation with sociocracy expert Ted Rau, PhD., hit play on that episode now. You won’t be disappointed, nor will you want to miss our introduction to sociocracy, the decentralized way for organizations, workplaces, and communities to make decisions. 

In Part Two, Ted and I expand on how sociocracy might work in the group practice environment and how the fundamental issues of trust, personal power, and organizational accountability inform its success. 

Ted Rau is an advocate, trainer, and consultant for self-governance with a focus on sociocracy. After earning a PhD in linguistics and working in academia, he co-founded Sociocracy For All in 2016, a now global organization with 250 members. Ted consults with mission-driven organizations, teaches, and actively participates in Sociocracy For All’s work. A transgender man and father of five, Ted has lived in Massachusetts since 2010. He is the co-author of three books on self-governance, including Many Voices One Song (2018) and Collective Power (2023), and is currently writing on governance and wisdom.

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review of this show

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

My Website:

https://www.headheartbiztherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartBizTherapy/

Instagram:

@headheartbiztherapy

Change may be inevitable, but it’s far from easy. That’s especially true in the therapy field. Part of my own shift is a greater focus (on this podcast and IRL) on system-wide transformation, especially in the group practice realm. How do we bridge the gap between employees and owners when both feel overworked and underpaid? 

Sociocracy could be the answer. But first, what the heck is sociocracy?

Ted Rau, PhD., co-founded Sociocracy For All (SoFA), a nonprofit that makes decentralized, consent-based governance accessible to workplaces, organizations, and communities. He knows a lot about how sociocracy works in principle and practice, having become a practitioner of the governance style as a member of an intentional living community.

Ted Rau is an advocate, trainer, and consultant for self-governance with a focus on sociocracy. After earning a PhD in linguistics and working in academia, he co-founded Sociocracy For All in 2016, a now global organization with 250 members. Ted consults with mission-driven organizations, teaches, and actively participates in Sociocracy For All’s work. A transgender man and father of five, Ted has lived in Massachusetts since 2010. He is the co-author of three books on self-governance, including Many Voices One Song (2018) and Collective Power (2023), and is currently writing on governance and wisdom.

***

SUPPORT THE SHOW

Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our Bookshop.org store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review of this show

***

Let’s be friends! You can find me in the following places…

My Website:

https://www.headheartbiztherapy.com/podcast

Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/HeadHeartBizTherapy/

Instagram:

@headheartbiztherapy