"My role in this program is to create fertile ground. That's it. And then what I'm going to do is rely on the fertile ground to do the work of growing the plants. And so rather than being the guy that's growing the plants, I'm just creating the framework for that to happen." ~Jeremy French

Jeremy French is a maker. He's made lots of cool things - a sober life worth living, a marriage, some really great kids, time to spend outside, some furniture, and a business --Making Whole-- that teaches addicts how to make these things for themselves. He's really excited to figure out how to help make more things that make life better for more people.

Sarah and Jeremy discuss the unique ways his business helps people in early recovery learn about radical compassion, tolerating uncertainty, and solve problems.

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