In this episode of the Weights and Plates podcast, Robert Santana and Andy Baker pick up where they left off—diving deep into what really matters after the novice phase of strength training. From chaotic early training setups (including recording in a truck to escape jackhammers) to the predictable pitfalls lifters fall into, they unpack why so many people are eager to “major in the minors” before mastering the fundamentals.

Together, they explore how goals shape programming—whether you’re training for strength sports, performance, aesthetics, or simply to avoid being “weak.” With candid discussion on genetics, aging, muscle-building potential, drug-influenced advice online, and why variety matters for performance and longevity, this conversation lays out the realistic roadmap every lifter needs once the newbie gains start to slow down.

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