This week, the team dives into more meme capitalism, the AI hype cycle, and why San Francisco is still the epicenter of tech ambition (and some very odd real estate choices). We debate the real value behind Perplexity, the future of Chrome, and the myths founders tell themselves about trials and second chances. Plus: Taylor Swift, conspiracy AIs, and the ultimate contrarian takes for VCs and founders. Your usual well rounded and brutally honest weekly episode of More or Less.

Chapters:

00:00 – Taylor Swift Should Buy Chrome?!

02:30 – SF Comeback: The AI Pied Piper Effect

06:30 – Meme Capitalism: Conference of the Future

14:00 – AI Bubble Watch: Perplexity’s Valuation

17:30 – Founder Redemption: Always Call Your VCs

20:00 – The Dirty Secret of SaaS Trials

25:00 – Chrome Antitrust Circus

29:00 – AI Hardware: Bring Back the Flashlight

35:00 – Taylor Swift: Peak Culture or Just Getting Started?

43:00 – Conspiracy AI: The Next Meme Machine?

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