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Jeff and Phil welcome New Zealand writer/activist Tze Ming Mok. She talks about her country's complicated racial politics, what it's like to live under a functional government that has had a handle on COVID-19, and what her view of America looks like right now. (It's not good.)
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Jeff and Phil welcome New Zealand writer/activist Tze Ming Mok. She talks about her country's complicated racial politics, what it's like to live under a functional government that has had a handle on COVID-19, and what her view of America looks like right now. (It's not good.)

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