Natalia, Jesse, and Emmy sit down to talk about some hot Christian gossip (hot xtian goss, ™ Nora McInerny) around Rachel Hollis and what it actually means to “do the work.”

This episode was recorded April 9, 2021, prior to the murder of Daunte Wright and the presence of the National Guard in Minneapolis both in reaction to the resulting protests and in preparation for reactions to the closing arguments in the Chauvin murder trial. We encourage you to follow us on Instagram for Natalia & Jesse’s immediate reaction to Daunte’s murder as well as for what you can do to help local organizations. Natalia is coordinating hotel housing for those directly in the line of protests and increased police force in Brooklyn Center, and you can support that on GoFundMe at https://www.gofundme.com/f/emergency-housing-for-brooklyn-center .