In this inspiring guest episode of Counselor Chat, Carey Hughes and Rachel Haglin take the mic to share how a simple shift in mindset — and one powerful administrative conference — led to real advocacy and real results.

They didn’t just talk about change. They led it. And it’s already transforming their district.

🔑 In this episode, you’ll learn:

• Why “It’s a program, not a position” is more than a mantra — it’s a movement
• How Carey and Rachel used the ASCA Annual Administrative Conference to align with school goals
• What happened when they presented data and needs directly to district leadership
• The behind-the-scenes story of becoming lead counselors — and how it started with a letter
• What to do when advocacy doesn’t work right away (hint: it’s a marathon, not a sprint)

This episode is your reminder that small steps — when led with heart, data, and courage — can lead to powerful, lasting change.

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