Waylon talks with publisher, author, activist (and gardener!) Maria Rodale. We'll discuss her humorous and surprising conversations with the spirits of plants and animals via shamanic journeys, as discussed in her new book: Love, Nature, Magic.

"I had been doing shamanic journeying on my own for about 10 years and I was out gardening one day and really annoyed. Totally annoyed by this one weed, right? Mugwort. Like, I wanted to kill it—to the point where I was almost ready to use [Monsanto's poison] Roundup, which is crazy. 

So I decided to do a shamanic journey to see if I could talk to this plant and find out why it was so annoying.

...And that opened up a whole new world for me." ~ Maria Rodale