True story: on top of my nonprofit work, I'm an aspiring stand-up comedian.  And, lemme tell ya, it's rough out there for a comic.  Join me and fellow stand-up comedian and Chief Story Smith Carlos Maestas to talk about how to be a better communicator.  We talk about how to find your own story, why it's a good idea to not take yourself too seriously and how to get out of pitch mode and into real connection with funders.  This interview was a ton of fun and jam-packed with value bombs for those looking to be better storytellers, and communicators.

For more about Carlos and to get his book, check it out here: https://www.keyideas.net/

To see Carlos's very funny work for the Human Services Council, check it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gELZnORV4U&feature=youtu.be