Ashley Hales sits down with Amanda Held Opelt to talk about how we might normalize grief, pain, loss and death. With her background in aid work, she thought she would prepared, but wasn't when her sister Rachel Held Evans was hospitalized and died. But studying grief rituals was one way through.

Listen in to this hopeful, thoughtful and rich conversation and let it help you process your own losses.

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Amanda's book, A Hole in the World

Connect with Amanda on her website

Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com.

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