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#133 - Build the Learning Machine: AI Adoption, Flow Metrics, and the Future of the CTO Role with Eric Bowman
From “dangerously skip permissions” to the Andon cord: voluntary adoption, flow metrics, and how agents change what CTOs optimize for
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In this episode, Eric Bowman (CTO @ King.com) breaks down how AI is changing programming, creativity, and technical leadership. We talk about what “living on the edge” looks like with modern AI tools, why “AI is just technology” is still the right mental model, and how CTOs can build organizations that stay fast, adaptable, and focused on time-to-value.
We dive into:
Chapters:
[00:53] Meet Eric Bowman: CTO of King.com
[02:24] Eric's Journey in Tech
[03:25] Living on the Edge with AI
[05:43] The Future of Programming with AI
[09:51] Navigating the Complexities of AI
[22:03] AI Creativity vs. Human Creativity
[28:41] Building the Ideal Tech Organization
[29:04] Focusing on the Tech Field
[29:21] The Future of SaaS
[29:50] AI as Just Technology
[33:03] Building a Learning Machine
[33:32] The Onan Cord Concept
[35:29] Time to Value and Learning
[38:23] The Evolving Role of CTOs
[41:04] Motivating Engineers to Embrace AI
[46:02] Voluntary Adoption of Tools
[51:35] Jevons Paradox and AI
[53:55] Reflections and Advice
[56:12] Conclusion and Farewell
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From “dangerously skip permissions” to the Andon cord: voluntary adoption, flow metrics, and how agents change what CTOs optimize for
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TOPdesk: Discover the future of internal IT in the DACH region with the "Inside ITSM 2026" report – featuring exclusive data on AI, DEX, and collaboration from 6,000 IT professionals. Download the report here
In this episode, Eric Bowman (CTO @ King.com) breaks down how AI is changing programming, creativity, and technical leadership. We talk about what “living on the edge” looks like with modern AI tools, why “AI is just technology” is still the right mental model, and how CTOs can build organizations that stay fast, adaptable, and focused on time-to-value.
We dive into:
Chapters:
[00:53] Meet Eric Bowman: CTO of King.com
[02:24] Eric's Journey in Tech
[03:25] Living on the Edge with AI
[05:43] The Future of Programming with AI
[09:51] Navigating the Complexities of AI
[22:03] AI Creativity vs. Human Creativity
[28:41] Building the Ideal Tech Organization
[29:04] Focusing on the Tech Field
[29:21] The Future of SaaS
[29:50] AI as Just Technology
[33:03] Building a Learning Machine
[33:32] The Onan Cord Concept
[35:29] Time to Value and Learning
[38:23] The Evolving Role of CTOs
[41:04] Motivating Engineers to Embrace AI
[46:02] Voluntary Adoption of Tools
[51:35] Jevons Paradox and AI
[53:55] Reflections and Advice
[56:12] Conclusion and Farewell
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