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Kate Jinx is joined by her dear pals Guy Blackman and Ben O'Connor, the owners of iconic indie record label Chapter Music ahead of their HUGE Rising Festival swansong show End of An Era on Saturday 7 June – highlighting their 33 years in the biz, and the changes they're making. They talk zines, musical influences, slutty eras and ... ceramics! You can (and SHOULD) also pre–order Guy Blackman's new solo album "Out of Sight" here.

Ben O'Connor's Also Alsos:

• The Kanopy (free streaming service) queer section
• Holy Sugar the cake shop in Northcote
• P.E. Moskowitz's substack Mentalhellth

Guy Blackman's Also Alsos:

• Australian potter Eric Juckert
• "Dressed in Black: The Shangri–Las and Their Recorded Legacy" by Lisa MacKinney
• 50s/60s/70s Australian label Phono Vox Records

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