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Ann Bauer is a top-notch personal essay writer, who built a reputation for eloquence and honesty at Salon.com, back in the aughts when the site was still a cultural force. (Sarah was lucky enough to work with Ann back then.) More recently, Ann has become a spitfire on Twitter, where she’s sounded off on COVID-related school closures, the progressive politics of Minneapolis, where she lives, and the various absurdities of our culture-war era.

Nancy and Sarah had a far-ranging and often profound conversation with Ann: About what speaking her mind on social media cost her (professionally, personally), about the potential link between RenFests, polyamory, and Rachel Maddow, and about the son she lost a few years ago, whose autism diagnosis Ann now questions (along with many scientific “certainties”).

Also discussed:

* The ickiness of self-promotion

* “You’re trying to kill me and my family”

* Getting dropped by the Washington Post

* Bruno Bettelheim, somehow

* Writing: It’s all in the execution

* Ann did NOT burn down Minneapolis’s Third Precinct

* The Stations of the Cross for Trump Derangement Syndrome

* “Why are you dressed up as druids and maidens?”

* Big love for Tablet Magazine

* No love for an author who promotes autism as magic that makes you special

* The Cinderella story of Kamala Harris

* The lonely estrangement of the white male in culture

* Writing about your own children: good? bad? both? all?

* What is autism, really?

Plus, people who should not wear leather, Sarah gets sucked into a classic 70s mini series, the coolness of Debbie Harry, and much more!