December 03, 2025

[169] Why justice, equity and inclusion are spiritual, not just political

What makes issues like immigration, equity, inclusion, and societal violence spiritual matters—not just political ones? In this episode of Compass: Finding Spirituality in the Everyday, host Ryan Dunn sits down with Bishop Julius Trimble, General Secretary of the United Methodist Church’s General Board of Church and Society, to explore the vibrant connection between justice work and spiritual life.

Bishop Trimble shares his journey from Chicago’s South Side to advocating for social change on Capitol Hill, reflecting on how United Methodist roots—and personal encounters with beloved community—shaped his commitment to issues like healthcare, racial equity, and creation care. The conversation delves into how faith communities can move beyond “water-based theology” and “cheap grace” to embody real love and meaningful action.

Whether you’re steeped in Methodist tradition or simply curious about the intersection of faith and public life, this episode invites you to consider how loving boldly and serving joyfully can help build a more just and compassionate world.

Guest Bio:

Bishop Julius Trimble (he/him) is the General Secretary of the United Methodist Church’s General Board of Church and Society. Raised in Chicago and deeply influenced by the civil rights movement and the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Bishop Trimble has dedicated his life to advocating for justice, compassion, and the inclusion of all people as sacred worth. He is a recognized leader in both the church and broader society, passionate about equipping individuals and faith communities to live out a transformative, justice-driven spirituality.

[00:00] Faith, Justice, and Beloved Community

[04:25] Bishop Trimble’s 1985 Apartheid Seminar Experience

[06:54] Faith, justice, and community building

[11:13] Honoring stories in our spiritual lives

[14:47] Faith, justice, and real-life challenges

[18:49] “Budgets reflect values and justice”

[23:26] “Water-Based Theology” and “Cheap Grace”

[25:06] Cheap Grace vs. True Responsibility

[29:50] Listening without fixing

[32:48] Be a blessing to others

[35:30] Compass: more episodes

For more episodes and resources to help you find spirituality in the everyday, visit: umc.org/compass