Key Conversation Points:

• How can we enlarge ourselves for someone else's story? 
• What does it mean to embrace the ordinary smallness because therein lies the glory, the DNA, of Christ.  Lisa-Jo's intimate perspective on Ukraine is so vital to understand right now. Learn from her memories and experience. 
• Where Lisa-Jo used to work in Ukraine is the area that flashes across the news all the time right now. Who knew that building has so many special treasures?!
• How do Lisa-Jo's Ukrainian friends still have their ordinary mornings even in the midst of hearing bombs exploding in the background? 
• We can't opt out on the ordinary, holy moments and only focus on death and destruction.  Sorrow and every day life can hold hands. 
• What does Christie mean about naming and unnaming? How can it push back darkness? 
• Shannan's Instagram Post is here. 
• Lisa-Jo's Ukraine Post is here. 

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